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03-06-2008, 12:09 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
(oh, please)
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Let me guess...you admire the family values of a drunken, emotionally unstable, womanizer like McCain? Get real bro.
Obama is a liberal...but he's straight up about who he is and what he believes. McCain's a phony. He's not a real Republican, he's not a real conservative. He's a phony who's been on every side of every issue:
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03-06-2008, 12:23 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
(oh, please)
...walks out of the room
...starts to throw up.
 
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Also...I'd never compare Obama with Jesus Christ...in my opinion to use the image of Jesus as a political attack strategy is dangerously close to blasphemy.
Exodus 20:7
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Colossians 3:8
But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
Our savior isn't a political tool nor should we use him as such.
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03-06-2008, 07:41 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
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Yes, Obama’s theologically liberal and we’d most likely have a passionate debate over iced tea regarding the issue. But in the end what matters is “policy”. Obama opposes “gay marriage” but supports “civil unions”. In January of 2007 McCain stated that the issue of outright “gay marriage” should be left up to the states. So Obama would give you policy supporting civil unions…McCain would support it if your state gave you full “gay marriage”. For this reason McCain stands against a ban on “gay marriage” or a Marriage Amendment. Not to mention McCain has flip-flopped over civil unions as a policy position several times. Honestly, McCain doesn’t know what to think unless the special interests tell him. LOL
I often wonder, why not let them have the right to do their thing? They’ll discover that getting their “right to marry” isn’t the answer. Divorce will be rampant among them and eventually they will ignore the idea to protect their assets from divorce settlements. They will be left realizing that there is still something yet beyond even marriage that they need for true happiness…Jesus. They’ll get sick on the quail.
An unsaved friend of mine that I work with said something funny about this once. He said that if we want them to stop having intercourse we need to allow them to get married…because out in the world intercourse stops after marriage. LOL
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So the man with the theological discrepencies represents you? What does this say for you Chris?
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03-06-2008, 08:49 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
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So the man with the theological discrepencies represents you? What does this say for you Chris?
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We vote for men with theological discrepancies all the time. McCain’s personal beliefs were on par with Obama’s back when he called Falwell and those in the religious right “agents of hate”. While Obama and I may have theological differences, Obama isn’t gay and his religious views are part of his “civil rights” views that advocate for legal fairness to all Americans be they gay, straight, saint, or sinner. McCain “says” he believes like us…but he had multiple affairs and left is wife of 14 years for the little blonde floozy he’s currently with.
This is an issue of orthodoxy (right doctrine) vs. orthopraxy (right living). While Obama doesn’t hold orthodoxy (neither does McCain really), he passes the orthopraxy test. While McCain passes the orthodoxy test (technically he doesn’t because he’s an idol worshipper because of his Trinitarianism), he fails the orthopraxy test. (Technically McCain fails BOTH tests if we hold him to Apostolic Doctrine.) Now it depends on the individual voter here. What’s more important? For some all that matters is that the politician “says” he believes in the “orthodox” things and it frankly doesn’t matter to them what he does or what kind of personal character he has. For others, such as myself, they are willing to disagree on the finer points of belief and doctrine, however they want the politician to model more upright character. Obama may not believe exactly like we do…but he’s twice the man McCain could ever be because he’s never abandoned his family. Coming from a broken home, I know how damaging that is and I have absolutely NO respect for that.
Let me ask you this Bro. Eastman, does a womanizing goon like McCain who says he believes in the trinity and views conservative Christians as “agents of hate” represents you? What does this say about you Bro. Eastman?
Obama and I may disagree on a couple issues, but he’s got far more character than the phony McCain.
And on another note, I feel like you're trying to use my religion to manipulate me into voting for who YOU would have me vote for. What else does that say about you Bro. Eastman?
Remember, I've criticized McCain...you began asking me questions implying that my vote somehow disqualifies my Christian faith. I'm only returning the question.
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03-06-2008, 08:56 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
does the term wack job, demo plant , sound familiar to anyone on here, lol,dt
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03-06-2008, 08:59 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
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does the term wack job, demo plant , sound familiar to anyone on here, lol,dt 
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Nah... couldnt be! Say it aint so.... oh but then... remember... I am a FAKE... so its all just a joke... cant be sarcastic around here ya know! LOL 
Thats all I have to say about that... yep uh huh ....
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03-06-2008, 09:03 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
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Nah... couldnt be! Say it aint so.... oh but then... remember... I am a FAKE... so its all just a joke... cant be sarcastic around here ya know! LOL 
Thats all I have to say about that... yep uh huh ....
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you go girl, lol,dt  
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03-06-2008, 09:11 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
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Notice all they hurl are insults.
I have no problem with them choosing to vote for a womanizing phony if they truly think he's the "better man". But they have no ground to stand on when questioning morality, McCain's a womanizer who abandoned his family. However, in their minds I'm scum if I vote for a straight up Democrat who loves his wife and kids. That's disturbing.
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03-06-2008, 09:41 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
I say little here but in my mind you are NOT a scum....lol..
These posts only show how far people drift from God's real purpose...I too have been called all kinds of names but I have not had to repent for encouraging my people in Brazil to vote for crooked politicians that no matter how much they say with their lips they love God their hearts are far from Him...
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03-06-2008, 09:42 AM
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Re: President Barack Obama!
yes, voting is mandatory here...but those that do not feel to vote I encourage them to do what the JW do...there is always a way out...
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