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10-29-2007, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace
Ok I received an email via my myspace account (which now is set to private in case anyone else decides they want to send hate mail too) about an hour after this thread started calling me a 2 bit whore and every other UNCHRIST like name in the book! If this is any of my "AFF friends or shall I say I guess enemies" you are sickening! If its not *I am assured it is at least someone who lurks because of the content* good...
Enjoy your thread PP... looks like you got what you wanted and I hope you are happy! Yea it hurt... whoever it was you did a good job!
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Send it to me and the name...I think I know who
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-29-2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace
Ok I received an email via my myspace account (which now is set to private in case anyone else decides they want to send hate mail too) about an hour after this thread started calling me a 2 bit whore and every other UNCHRIST like name in the book! If this is any of my "AFF friends or shall I say I guess enemies" you are sickening! If its not *I am assured it is at least someone who lurks because of the content* good...
Enjoy your thread PP... looks like you got what you wanted and I hope you are happy! Yea it hurt... whoever it was you did a good job!
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Character assassination ....
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Excuse me, but I don't have a myspace account, or any other account like that. I have no idea what you are talking about and resent the charge you and Daniel have made here.
I would never do such a thing.
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10-29-2007, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace
Ok I received an email via my myspace account (which now is set to private in case anyone else decides they want to send hate mail too) about an hour after this thread started calling me a 2 bit whore and every other UNCHRIST like name in the book! If this is any of my "AFF friends or shall I say I guess enemies" you are sickening! If its not *I am assured it is at least someone who lurks because of the content* good...
Enjoy your thread PP... looks like you got what you wanted and I hope you are happy! Yea it hurt... whoever it was you did a good job!
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Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker
Well MR.PP...I never drive when I have had a glass of wine or a Margarita....we are mature, responsible adults, I pray you and your family is never run into by anyone drinking or not....I pray you and your family have a long and blessed life...full of joy and love ....I think you have lost control of your emotions and that is sad...I pray the rest of your day goes better....I know mine will....  |
Why does everyone always say that to the person they disagree with? Emotion has nothing to do with it.
Drunkenness is wrong. Glorying in what you drink, and how much you drink, on open forum is wrong.
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10-29-2007, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Encryptus
This entire thread started out of context slightly from both camps.
Yes some mature Christians said some things that were of questionable judgment in their attempts at humor. However blasphemy seems a bit harsh pronouncement.
Both sides have now thrown down into a measuring contest.
Facts pretty much agreed. Drunk is wrong. Drunk is sin. Drinking in moderation not banned by Bible. Drinking to get a buzz, or mind altering, would definitely fall under questionable behavior at best criminal if behind car.
There are health benefits to moderate drinking (glass of wine a day) which is proven by fact that moderate drinkers live longer and healthier than teetotalers.
However, too often moderate drinking DOES lead to abusive drinking, and makes some more susceptible to other drugs and alcoholism.
So while not a gateway to hell per se, it should be done with caution, if at all. And it is in poor taste to treat the topic lightly or with jocularity.
As far as Biblical standards, this would be like the eating meat sacrificed to idols. Follow your conscience, but go out of your way not to be a stumblingblock to your brother.
So in essence both sides are right to degree, and both sides share blame for this thread getting out of control.
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I never said he blasphemed. I said it bordered on it, and i stand by that comment.
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10-29-2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Clearly you sought to make us believe ... with your intro ....
That somehow tipsy denotes our modern definition. Strong was clear when we read his ENTIRE DEFINITION.
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Dan what is the difference between tipsy and drunk and at what point can we quantify when we know that to be true?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-29-2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The posts selected are a montage of quotes out of context and aided by emotionally charged color commentary.
The attacks and character assassination are blatant in post 1 and throughout .....
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Whatever.
Your language here does nothing to help the situation.
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10-29-2007, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Daniel, if there are any attacks, yours are equal, if not greater in force. You have a habit of attacking the person and rarely the topic, which undermines your own credibility and intelligence.
You seem so concerned with liberal theologies, that you can't even recognize a legitimate argument, lest you be tainted with conservatism by association. One of the first things you should do if you are to ever win any argument is to establish common ground. Otherwise, you're simply in a shouting match that has no winner.
I am not a typical conservative. Nor am I liberal. I refuse to stick with anything, other than scripture and my personal convictions. Yet even my posts you can't address seriously or soberly. I get the impression sometimes that you've lumped all conservative Apostolics into one big ball of wax, and you treat anyone perceived to be from that lump with the same disdain and disrespect, regardless of their personal views on any given matter.
That not only makes normal conversation difficult, but it makes honest debate impossible. I expect that sort of thing from Coop, but I think you can do better. Its a matter of wanting to.
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Exactly.
Herein is found rigidity.
It goes something like this.
"I am your friend as long as you completely agree with me on everything."
It's liberal legalism.
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10-29-2007, 07:27 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
And you still fail to understand drinking in moderation is a biblical principle.
We can flip this one a million ways .... whether it's not your conviction or not ....
It's permissible under any context or historical era.
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They did not merely drink in moderation. Wine was cut with water. It was watered down. They drank it because water alone was sickening and grape juice did not last long unless fermented...having no refrigeration. Other drinks had the same problem...no refrigeration
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-29-2007, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Well let's see ... RW .... who is the backslider and who are the so-called Christians and supposed preachers?
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I'll get banned if I clarify that one. 
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10-29-2007, 07:39 PM
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Superheros are evil...
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Exactly.
Herein is found rigidity.
It goes something like this.
"I am your friend as long as you completely agree with me on everything."
It's liberal legalism.
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PREACH IT, PREACHAAA!
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