For the umpteenth time, I say again: SHOOTING THE NEGLIGENT DRIVER IS NOT WHAT I WOULD DO!
How am I reflecting an un-Christlike mindset in being empathetic to the shooter?
The idiot driver showed extreme indifference to human life when he drove off from what he did, without ensuring safety.
He didn't even call 911 for the victim(s) of his "negligence."
But he sure called 911 after he was shot!!! Hmmmmm.
When you had your accident, I bet your response was different. If so, you're probably not an idiot driver!
One of my original assertions in this thread is that most of the time, idiot drivers drive idiotically most of the time. If there is a pattern of the idiotic reflected in his driver's record, when does it stop being "negligent"?
Killing is not something to be taken lightly at all, but sometimes it is necessary.
Dude, its like you are saying, "Bobby acidentally elbowed mike in the shoulder and made him spill his drink. Then mike took a tire iron and broke bobby's jaw and busted out 12 teeth. HOORAY FOR MIKE!!!!
That idiot Bobby should'nt be clumsy, I bet he has been clumsy before!!
He deserved to get his jaw wired shut for 6 months!
But Mike, here buddy, let me wipe those teeth off your tire iron for ya Bro.
I feel your pain man, I bet that drink was cold huh?
Dude, its like you are saying, "Bobby acidentally elbowed mike in the shoulder and made him spill his drink. Then mike took a tire iron and broke bobby's jaw and busted out 12 teeth. HOORAY FOR MIKE!!!!
That idiot Bobby should'nt be clumsy, I bet he has been clumsy before!!
He deserved to get his jaw wired shut for 6 months!
But Mike, here buddy, let me wipe those teeth off your tire iron for ya Bro.
I feel your pain man, I bet that drink was cold huh?
Well as far as I am concerned, the criminal was shot. The criminal was in this case the victim of his own ways.
Some people have to learn the hard way.
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
It's amazing that hardly anyone expresses that line of thought when discussing folks deemed as "criminals". The shooter hasn't even been caught, has not gone to trial and has not been convicted of anything. However, he has been referred to as the "criminal" in this thread.
The shooter, like most folks deemed to be "criminals" and "threats" are usually vilified and demonized, before conviction and too often, for too long after the conviction.
This fact negates fairness-- especially in this case.
It's OK for you to call the shooting victim a criminal (though he has not been convicted of anything, either), but it's not OK for anyone else to call the guy who shot the other guy a criminal. And you can vilify the shooting victim, even implying that it was intentional, with absolutely no basis for that accusation. That's just weird. Really, really weird.
Yeah, let's all carry loaded hand guns in our cars, and teach all those stupid drivers out there a lesson. It's the only way they'll learn! And think of how much safer the roads will be, once all those stupid drivers either 1. learn their lesson, or 2. stop driving, out of fear of being shot, or 3. are dead.
Sigh.
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Yeah, and what about the people that may have almost wrecked at the sound of a gunshot? I guess that's not the shooter's fault either. And what if the 1st driver had children in the car?
I think that anyone that thinks the shooter was rational, has some bigger problems than road rage.
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1)It's OK for you to call the shooting victim a criminal (though he has not been convicted of anything, either), but it's not OK for anyone else to call the guy who shot the other guy a criminal. And you can vilify the shooting victim, even 2) implying that it was intentional, with absolutely no basis for that accusation. That's just weird. Really, really weird.
3) Yeah, let's all carry loaded hand guns in our cars, and teach all those stupid drivers out there a lesson. It's the only way they'll learn! And think of how much safer the roads will be, once all those stupid drivers either 1. learn their lesson, or 2. stop driving, out of fear of being shot, or 3. are dead.
Sigh.
1) The natural inclination is to label the other shooter as the criminal. I am attempting to show that the other guy in a positive light-- for all we know he really a good guy who suffered a judgment lapse. But we are naturally inclined to not see him the shooter that way.
2) My basis for arguing that this idiot had malicious intent is the fact that he showed a lack of regard for the affects of his actions-- typical of other idiot drivers that don't consider how dangerous their driving is to the general public.
3) That's not the proper response for the shooter or for us.
Arresting and charging the shooter will no way bring justice to the idiot who caused all of this in the first place.
If the idiot driver had been driving drunk, would that change this situation at all for you guys?
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Yeah, and what about the people that may have almost wrecked at the sound of a gunshot? I guess that's not the shooter's fault either. And what if the 1st driver had children in the car?
I think that anyone that thinks the shooter was rational, has some bigger problems than road rage.
Cindy,
The shooter acted irrational, but I can understand his anger.
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All Criminals have a lapse in judgement. It's scary to think someone that would so easily shoot someone, not shoot AT someone, not shoot AT a car, not brandish a weapon, but shoot a human being with a gun where the bullet enters the body, because he can't control his anger....is still OUT there and still possibly carrying a weapon in his car.
If he is that great a citizen, let him turn himself in.
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