Illegals don't always get pulled over... but this might catch a few.
When Illegals seek a job it's typically private and under the table. Few would apply at the airport where I work because our background checks would catch them quickly. But some might be dumb enough to try to get a job that requires a back ground check... this might catch a few more.
Most of the time they don't buy houses, but land contract deals might catch a few. Most of the time the illegals I know rent from people who rent to them freely or rent to a legal party while the illegals stay with them.
What do you do to catch the millions more who are not rounded up? You've got a lot more work to do. How do you plan to do it?
How do you know there are millions of illegals?
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I'm a parent. What if I don't want to give them more than my child's birth certificate and immunization records?
What if you have to? I have to show proof that I'm their parent when I sign them up for a new school!
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That's a state issue. Should we move toward a nationalized driver's license?
I don't know when was the last time you applied for a new driver's license (not renewed one), but they will ask for your birth certificate, and if you are born in another country, you have to show proof of citizenship.
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You're really getting government up in my business here. What if I want to buy a house on land contract and it's my business?
You think the government isn't involved anyway? Well, they are. You have to pay taxes on that land.
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What if I don't want to "prove" I'm a citizen to give a bank my business? I'm an American.
Where I live, you have to show proof of citizenship to have a bank account. I believe it's that way everywhere in this nation due to homeland security laws.
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What if I want to hire my neighbor to build my roof and I simply don't care if he's legal or not? It's my money, my roof, and we agreed privately how much I'll charge him. What if I don't want you or the government all up in my business?
Would you feel the same way if your neighbor was a crackhead? Not that I'm comparing the two, but you seem to think that being here illegally is somehow less of a crime. There is much more to being an illegal than being here illegally. They evade paying taxes, have illegal income, and drain our economy. At least I know what to expect from the crackhead.
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They aren't a population. They aren't even legal. If they were legal you might have an argument but they are not. It ain't like I'm wanting to make all jews illegal and get them deported? I'm just saying that those here illegally shouldn't be and something more needs done about it. There does need to be ways more can come over and work legally. But i can't understand why your acting like anybody and everybody that comes into this country illegally has the right to be here. I mean if that's the case let's invite everyone to come live here without going through any immigration or naturalization process. We'd be flooded with too many people before long and you know it. But that is what you are saying you want done.
There is more to fear from illegals that Mexicans hopping the border to have a better life. If we let them in, we have to let Al Qaida in too. Then our cities can look like Bahgdad.
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However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a threat to security, health or property.
So, if they are Mexican, they are allowed entry, but if they are Iraqi, they aren't? How do you determine who is a threat to security, health, or property?
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Amnesty would be granting citizenship without any legal ramifications. A first degree misdemeanor, a fine, and probation isn't amnesty. Forcing them to pay back taxes might also be in order if employment can be verified.
LOL! But wouldn't you also have to pay back taxes for having them work under the table for you? IF employment can be verified?? Like what, someone took a picture?
You aren't thinking about what you are even posting here. You imply that everyone is secretive and unable to be caught, then you say that there should be fines and criminal records if they aren't secretive enough.
I do agree with you about the 'how would I know they are legal' business. I think it's ludicrious to ask for ID to have someone mow your lawn or help you side your house. However, if your neighbor wasn't able to rent the house next door to you without proper ID, you wouldn't have to ask for it, right?
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I was referring to your post about how people will get so desperate that they turn to crime to pay the bills and keep their daughters from turning tricks.
And your suggestion wastes taxpayer monies, IMO. Courts are full enough with American issues and people who can't behave themselves. We don't need more attorneys and judges deciding cases on who gets to stay and who gets to leave when ALL of them are here under the same terms.....ILLEGALLY.
I don't care if they are from Mexico or from Iraq. Almost every country has an American embassy they can seek help from. It's really not that difficult if they are so desperate for a better life and honest work. Thousands of people do it every year.
I just feel that suggesting we give them fines and a criminal record is a bit extreme compared to just sending them home.
How do you propose rounding up all these illegals?
You missed the whole point of my question. After granting the ones here amnesty, how do we keep from having another batch of illegal immigrants a few years later?
Bro... no one would be granted amnesty. lol You need to look up the definition of the term.
We do what Texas did. We streamline the immigration process. It will reduce the number of illegals significantly.
Bro... no one would be granted amnesty. lol You need to look up the definition of the term.
We do what Texas did. We streamline the immigration process. It will reduce the number of illegals significantly.
You keep on avoiding the question when it's quite clear what i'm asking. If we legalize these immigrants into citizens as you seem to advocate, that will not solve the problem of the next batch of illegal immigrants. What do you suggest we do about those? Give them citizenship also?
If you make the punishments strict enough you don't have to verify. That's the whole point of strict punishments. What I am saying will not require you to register with the government that you've verified citizenship. It's an empty argument you have there. What I am proposing will not require much more regulation than what is currently in place.
You can't hold me accountable for something I'm not legally bound to do. You have to make it manitory that I check. In order to do that you need a system whereby I have to register that I did. Else it's open for flagrant abuse. Let's say an illegal gives me false ID and I think he's legal. Then he gets caught and claims I never verified. I have no legal recourse to prove that I did. Resgistration would be a legal necessity to protect all involved.
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