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Old 06-16-2008, 11:47 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

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He's catching up, Prax. He missed all the posting as it was happening. It's his thread, so he is answering everyone's posts.
It's kinda funny though...a little surreal lol
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:50 PM
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Can you give me scripture for that?
Sister,

I got it wrong, but here it is anyway.

1Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft,7081 and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

H7081
קסם
qesem
keh'-sem
From H7080; a lot; also divination (including its fee), oracle: - (reward of) divination, divine sentence, witchcraft.

BTW, Manipulation is witchcraft just in case you didn't know.
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:52 PM
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Are people really trying to create some kind of correlation between modern pharmacology, and sorcery/witchcraft?

And if so..... why?
Galatians 5:20 is in correlation with modern pharmacology and the word meaning used is witchcraft. This is the only scripture that uses witchcraft in that way.
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:55 PM
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Galatians 5:20 is in correlation with modern pharmacology and the word meaning used is witchcraft. This is the only scripture that uses witchcraft in that way.
The translation is witchcraft because it is NOT talking about modern pharmacology. It's talking about an occult practice for religious reasons, not a science

Rev 18:23 and the light of a lamp will shine in you no more, and the voice of bridegroom and bride will be heard in you no more, for your merchants were the great ones of the earth, and all nations were deceived by your sorcery.
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:55 PM
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I don't know, does it? Chapter and verse for he didn't. I know kinda mean, sorry. I will go look it up.
I don't think there are any scriptures that says he gave any medication, but I could be wrong.

It's ok about sounding mean because I don't hold it against you.
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:02 AM
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Not true.

Witchcraft in the bible is not in any way related to what we recognize today as pharmacology.

That's bad doctrine, plain and simple.


Stop it, please. Stop!!
So, are you saying that Galatians 5:20 is wrong? If you do, then show me how it is wrong.

Gal 5:20 Idolatry,1495 witchcraft,5331 hatred,2189 variance,2054 emulations,2205 wrath,2372 strife,2052 seditions,1370 heresies,139


G5331
φαρμακεία
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.

G5332
φαρμακεύς
pharmakeus
far-mak-yoos'
From φάρμακον pharmakon (a drug, that is, spell giving potion); a druggist (“pharmacist”) or poisoner, that is, (by extension) a magician: - sorcerer.


It is straight and to the point.
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This is quite a little debate on this thread, isn't it? You opened up a can of worms.
I didn't plan on this happening, but when I heard about it on a preaching CD that we have, I thought that it was interesting and I have read through the Bible a few times in my life.
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:05 AM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

Vines
In "sorcery," the use of drugs, whether simple or potent, was generally accompanied by incantations and appeals to occult powers, with the provision of various charms, amulets, etc., professedly designed to keep the applicant or patient from the attention and power of demons, but actually to impress the applicant with the mysterious resources and powers of the sorcerer.
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:11 AM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication

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Where does the Bible say that?
It doesn't but you know that he prayed for the people and they were healed.
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:17 AM
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The art of compounding herbs, spices, etc was practiced by both the good and the bad. It was used by magicians, physicians and pharmacists. The art was practiced to formulate the incence used in altar of incence the holy place. (Ex 30:25; v 35; 37:29 ; Ecc 10:1)

It is referred to as the art or work of the apothecary.
Exo 30:25 And thou shalt make6213 it an oil8081 of holy6944 ointment,4888 an ointment7545 compound4842 after the art4639 of the apothecary:7543 it shall be1961 a holy6944 anointing4888 oil.8081

H7543
רקח
râqach
raw-kakh'
A primitive root; to perfume: - apothecary, compound, make [ointment], prepare, spice.

Exo 30:35 And thou shalt make6213 it a perfume,7004 a confection7545 after the art4639 of the apothecary,7543 tempered together,4414 pure2889 and holy:6944


Exo 37:29 And he made6213 (853) the holy6944 anointing4888 oil,8081 and the pure2889 incense7004 of sweet spices,5561 according to the work4639 of the apothecary.7543

Ecc 10:1 Dead4194 flies2070 cause the ointment8081 of the apothecary7543 to send forth5042 a stinking savor:887 so doth a little4592 folly5531 him that is in reputation3368 for wisdom4480, 2451 and honor.4480, 3519


It doesn't say anything about being a pharmacist though.
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