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Old 10-30-2007, 02:31 PM
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What about those pastors that try to probe into married saints bedroom habits.

When we were newly weds, the pastor of a church I used to attend approached my wife and I, and he wanted to meet with us to find out how we were enjoying married life. We we so shocked when he asked what is it we like to do with each other (sexually). We repectfully decline to answer the question, and quickly dimissed ourselves from the meeting because I was on the verge of declaring him a pervert.

One church rule was also, if a married couple stays home on a church night and have any kind of sexual relations it would be considered Lust because it is a church night and therefore a sin.
That describes our old one -the one my wife grew up in. Nothing, in terms of marital relations, was allowed on Sunday period OR Saturday night because it was the NIGHT before Sunday..... There were about 7-8 additional "rules" concerning this subject. We walked out the morning he went into this the first time and never stepped foot in the place again.
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:32 PM
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That describes our old one -the one my wife grew up in. Nothing, in terms of marital relations, was allowed on Sunday period OR Saturday night because it was the NIGHT before Sunday..... There were about 7-8 additional "rules" concerning this subject. We walked out the morning he went into this the first time and never stepped foot in the place again.
unbelieveable!!!!

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What about those pastors that try to probe into married saints bedroom habits.

When we were newly weds, the pastor of a church I used to attend approached my wife and I, and he wanted to meet with us to find out how we were enjoying married life. We we so shocked when he asked what is it we like to do with each other (sexually). We repectfully decline to answer the question, and quickly dimissed ourselves from the meeting because I was on the verge of declaring him a pervert.

One church rule was also, if a married couple stays home on a church night and have any kind of sexual relations it would be considered Lust because it is a church night and therefore a sin.
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OK, Number 1. EWWWWWWW, WHAT??? WHY??? What is UP WITH THAT!!!

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Dizzy, this sounds just like a deceased pastor in your neck of the woods!!

his preaching was so RAAAWWWW!

Number 2. We actually wound up with a lot of those people, most made the transition pretty well!
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:40 PM
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OK, Number 1. EWWWWWWW, WHAT??? WHY??? What is UP WITH THAT!!!




Number 2. We actually wound up with a lot of those people, most made the transition pretty well!

The things I heard that man preach about Over the pulpit IN FRONT OF KIDS was pornographic!!!!!

I wouldn't be able to post it on the forum ! ! !

How did those people ever endure that stuff ??
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The things I heard that man preach about Over the pulpit IN FRONT OF KIDS was pornographic!!!!!

I wouldn't be able to post it on the forum ! ! !

How did those people ever endure that stuff ??
NO idea, I can't imagine. Some of this stuff makes you want to scream, "Stop the insanity"!
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:43 PM
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The things I heard that man preach about Over the pulpit IN FRONT OF KIDS was pornographic!!!!!

I wouldn't be able to post it on the forum ! ! !

How did those people ever endure that stuff ??
Its not that hard to understand when you understand the incredibly small step from unbridled legalism to unbridled debauchery. Like the church in Washington state that went from being an UC to practicing wife swapping.... all within a few short years.
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Its not that hard to understand when you understand the incredibly small step from unbridled legalism to unbridled debauchery. Like the church in Washington state that went from being an UC to practicing wife swapping.... all within a few short years.
Is this the same church that ended up on Dateline(or one of shows) for holding a member hostage against his will ???
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:45 PM
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I was remembering another thing...no sleep overs for the kids....

No camping with other families, or vacations...because everyone one might get toooo familiar we were told the story of a two couples that got too close...over and over....and over...have no clue if it was true or not, or just a story to scare us into not getting toooo close to anyone!


Ya know they really did have a paranoid outlook on life...

Remember when I said that you had to have two broken legs to miss church...well unless your part of the Pastors family or the pastor himself...they were very VAIN!
gross over-reactions. Im surprised they did not wrap their kids in bubble wrap packaging to keep them from hurting themselves. This stuff happens and it is not the Pastors job to control everyone. If it is going to happen they are going to do it anyways. Nor does one example mean it's going to keep happening.
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Thats right...and we got spanked often too....spare the rod ya know...spoil the child....I know their intent
The pastor spanked you guys too?
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:50 PM
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Is this the same church that ended up on Dateline(or one of shows) for holding a member hostage against his will ???
Depends when it aired. This all happened during the mid to late 70's.
This book tells the whole sordid tale. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1579211119

A short review from Amazon.com
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Sandra Anderson was the wife of an elder in the Community Chapel church in Washington state. It is a non-fiction account as compared to June Summer's recent fictionalized novel, ocCULT: They Didn't Think It Could Happen In Their Church.

It wasn't written in chronological order, so it's jumpy in places (but she forewarns you of this). Some happenings are glanced over (such as suicides and murder). She also gives more details of the sexual wrongs committed by herself and other members as compared to June's book (a word of warning to anyone who may read, though her mentions are not meant to tittilate). It's an insider's view of one who saw firsthand how some things developed in the church and how she became entangled in it all and then broke free. Her marriage dissolved as a result of these events and she places the blame upon herself in how she reacted after she realized what she'd been involved in was not of God as she'd thought.

To those unaware, this church became experience based, with an almost blind obedience to the leadership by many. There was first the teaching about demons and many members went through "deliverances". Due to the freedom some felt came with the deliverances, the teaching of dancing before the Lord started. This then led to the next step of "spiritual connections", which eventually lead to adultery and divorce among a great number of members in the church. People would pair up with members of the opposite sex, not their own spouses, and many would start to become intimate to varying degrees. It also occured to some extent between those of the same sex.

Reading her book and June's book together will give the reader a better idea of what happened at this church. It serves as a warning to all. Remember the subtitle of June's book, "They Didn't Think It Could Happen In Their Church". We cannot afford to be blind to unhealthy signs in leadership or in any church we may attend. Experience must never come before Scripture.
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