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03-04-2007, 10:58 PM
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NO one will be saved in this dispensation outside of Acts 2:38.
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03-04-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I was filled with baptism of the HG before being water baptized .....
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I was filled with the Holy Ghost July 22, 1960. I was baptized in Jesus Name July 23, 1960.
My mother received the Holy Ghost about a year before she was baptized.
My husband also received the Holy Ghost before he was baptized.
Several years ago I heard a minister question the HG baptism B 4 water baptism; not sure what he did with Acts 10. No one can take away your experience, no matter how others may see it.
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03-04-2007, 11:50 PM
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I was filled with the Holy Ghost July 22, 1960. I was baptized in Jesus Name July 23, 1960.
My mother received the Holy Ghost about a year before she was baptized.
My husband also received the Holy Ghost before he was baptized.
Several years ago I heard a minister question the HG baptism B 4 water baptism; not sure what he did with Acts 10. No one can take away your experience, no matter how others may see it. |
I was filled with the HG a month before I was baptized but I have not tired to rewrite the Bible. Thank God you were filled but you also was baptized in Jesus Name so you got both water & the Spirit! 
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03-04-2007, 11:53 PM
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I was filled with the HG a month before I was baptized but I have not tired to rewrite the Bible. Thank God you were filled but you also was baptized in Jesus Name so you got both water & the Spirit! |
Resurrection before burial ...????? Can't have it both ways.
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03-04-2007, 11:56 PM
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Resurrection before burial ...????? Can't have it both ways.
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Dan we have 2 NT examples where they recieved the HGB before baptism thus we are yet in the book. Argue with the historian that wrote Acts and God who filled them. However the PROOF they really got it they were baptized. And that in Jesus Name.
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03-04-2007, 11:58 PM
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Dan we have 2 NT examples where they recieved the HGB before baptism thus we are yet in the book. Argue with the historian that wrote Acts and God who filled them. However the PROOF they really got it they were baptized. And that in Jesus Name.
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Not arguing the sequence ... Bishop .. sorry ... I know what the Bible says ... can't squirm out of this one ... sorry ...you're the one hung up on the death, burial and resurrection sequence ...
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03-05-2007, 12:04 AM
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Not arguing the sequence ... Bishop .. sorry ... I know what the Bible says ... can't squirm out of this one ... sorry ...you're the one hung up on the death, burial and resurrection sequence ...
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We believe in death-burial-resurrection, also blood-water-Spirit however the Book of Acts gives the pattern not I and He God himself did this. And as Peter said who am I to argue with God?
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03-05-2007, 12:07 AM
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We believe in death-burial-resurrection, also blood-water-Spirit however the Book of Acts gives the pattern not I and He God himself did this. And as Peter said who am I to argue with God?
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You've just admitted that there is no set pattern ??? I'm confused ....
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03-05-2007, 12:25 AM
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You've just admitted that there is no set pattern ??? I'm confused ....
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You have read the record and you are not serious you know exactly what we believe so quit playing.
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03-25-2007, 09:18 PM
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Sorry Bro. Matt for not responding right away...I am at work tonight and so it is hard for me to engage at the same pace...this forum is very very very active and I find it hard to keep up with so many missles flying from all directions. So please understand if I don't respond soon enough, it is not with the intention of hiding...and I'll do my best to get back as soon as I can.
Having said that, in response to your question, I believe the new birth takes place at the moment of genuine faith (which is why I also believe ministers should be diligent about explaining all the intricacies pertaining to the gospel-good news- message and that the Book of Romans is an excellent launching pad for one to explain this expediently). If the intricacies are dealt with, the hearer of the Word won't go away with a notion of "easy believism".
So when we explain this wonderful gospel message those who believe and accept this message as true will be convicted in their heart and will fully trust that Jesus is sufficient, that his righteousness is imputed to us, that his blood washes away our sin, that we in our own righteousness always miserably fall short, that not one of us is righteous enough to deserve pardon, but that His perfect and unblemished life and precious blood on the cross is what we can turn to. Our greatest act of obedience, I think, is believing and trusting Jesus and what he did for us is sufficient...and everything good and appropriate thing we do afterwards we do in obedience and to bring glory to God.
And that my friends, is real GOOD NEWS for us!
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Ohhhh the beauty of the simplicity of the gospel. I weep for the times that we have sent people away from a night of prayer in the altar, saying, you almost got it.
Good post..and good doctrine J-Roc
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