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06-21-2015, 10:58 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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Morse is mentioned in Fudge's Heretics & Politics book on 2 pages.
He is linked with C.H. Yadon, Goss & Ewart as having no problems with a statement such as "we believe in the unity of the Godhead."
On the other page it has a picture of Morse with many others and mentions that C.H. Yadon attended Morse's school in Oakland.
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I never heard of this book until now. Boy oh boy, isn't Mr Fudge a Hater.
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08-27-2015, 05:59 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
A history professor at Fuller Seminary was excited about my book. Although he had heard of Harry Morse, he had not heard of Lydia Swinton or Selma Nelson.
Hopefully, I will gain access to a diary of a man who was at Azusa Street and who visited the church where Lydia Swinton pastored. I hope new information is gained. The family has not published the diary and so it is unknown what info will be gained.
Yes, it is a slow process. But progress continues.
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08-31-2015, 07:15 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Harry Morse was still AG in 1914. Not sure what he was in 1915 when he moved to Oakland.
I have not tracked what he was in sequence throughout his life. He changed denominations several times. In part because Pentecostalism was in a time of transition.
I did find a guy, Samuel Webster, by name. He was a PAW minister who visited both Lydia Swintons mission in Stockton and Harry Morse in Oakland. He was in Stockton in 1918.
Finding more data about Lydia Swinton and Selma Nelson may require me to visit Stockton and Oakland. The Stockton Record newspaper is not online. Swinton, Nelson and Morse fellowshipped together. None of them ever got married. I think the 3 of the were believers in the "social purity" doctrine. Not sure how Swinton and Nelson encountered Pentecost. Prior to 1906 all 3 were part of the Peniel Mission.
Not sure if Swinton and Nelson were PCI or PAW. Still looking into it.
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08-31-2015, 07:24 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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Harry Morse was still AG in 1914. Not sure what he was in 1915 when he moved to Oakland.
I have not tracked what he was in sequence throughout his life. He changed denominations several times. In part because Pentecostalism was in a time of transition.
I did find a guy, Samuel Webster, by name. He was a PAW minister who visited both Lydia Swintons mission in Stockton and Harry Morse in Oakland. He was in Stockton in 1918.
Finding more data about Lydia Swinton and Selma Nelson may require me to visit Stockton and Oakland. The Stockton Record newspaper is not online. Swinton, Nelson and Morse fellowshipped together. None of them ever got married. I think the 3 of the were believers in the "social purity" doctrine. Not sure how Swinton and Nelson encountered Pentecost. Prior to 1906 all 3 were part of the Peniel Mission.
Not sure if Swinton and Nelson were PCI or PAW. Still looking into it.
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Morse was married. His wife was named Maude. There's a picture of them in the chapter about him in Profiles of Pentecostal Preachers, vol. 2, WAP 1984.
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09-01-2015, 07:12 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
I have that book. That chapter was penned by Jewel Yadon.
Jewel's contributions and clarifications have been of great value.
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09-03-2015, 11:53 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
I'm still typing up class notes from September of 1929. A guest teacher was a certain Weneguard. Or Wesieguard. The end part "guard" is clear. The first part is not clear.
Any ideas ??
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09-04-2015, 05:04 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Harry Morse give instructions for "saints meetings" but I am not sure what he means. They are to be private, not public, Not for unbelievers, heart to heart, he also mentions communion and for washing.
What is a saints meeting ??
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09-04-2015, 10:57 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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Harry Morse give instructions for "saints meetings" but I am not sure what he means. They are to be private, not public, Not for unbelievers, heart to heart, he also mentions communion and for washing.
What is a saints meeting ??
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Scott. I remember our church having saints meetings. Some still have them. It was a time time to ask questions or clarify doctrine and remind the saints of their commitment to the local church. Sounds like the old timers may have included communion and foot washing as part of it. It certainly was not meant for the or visitor.
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09-04-2015, 11:57 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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Originally Posted by Scott Pitta
Harry Morse give instructions for "saints meetings" but I am not sure what he means. They are to be private, not public, Not for unbelievers, heart to heart, he also mentions communion and for washing.
What is a saints meeting ??
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This practice was yet followed by many PAW churches until the last couple of decades. This was where generally pastors dealt with problems and problem saints. Called saints meeting because it was for saints only not open to public. Both Bishop Haywood and Elder Tobin who followed him at Christ Temple had these and those churches affiliated modeled after them.
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09-04-2015, 02:08 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Thanks !! I have profound appreciation for your significant insight !!
When I am done typing up the notes, I will post a meaning analysis or summary of the contents.
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