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Old 05-23-2007, 01:50 AM
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Thad, read this part again, especially the bolded parts:



If you want to believe that you will feel the power of God coming out of your pastor's wife's hair when she takes it down on the platform, you go right ahead and shockamoo, but I won't be privy to such foolishness.

let me remind you, i don;t believe in the Ruth Rider Hair bun doctrine. however, are you going to take just this young girl's account of the event and marginalize Sis lumpkin without hearing her out ? Perhaps she was taken out of context. I will give sis L the benefit of the doubt on it until shown otherwise. I still think we out to be careful doubting and judging other peoples experiences with the presence of the LOrd
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Here's a link about them:

http://www.rickross.com/reference/ra...a_behera5.html

You can search the Rick Ross website for Samanta Roy and come up with several articles.
Here's a better site:

http://www.rickross.com/groups/rama_behera.html
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How do we know the business men were not just UPCers from another local UPC and recognized the look?
Good point!
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let me remind you, i don;t believe in the Ruth Rider Hair bun doctrine. however, are you going to take just this young girl's account of the event and marginalize Sis lumpkin without hearing her out ? Perhaps she was taken out of context. I will give sis L the benefit of the doubt on it until shown otherwise. I still think we out to be careful doubting and judging other peoples experiences with the presence of the LOrd
Thad, it's for several reasons why I take her at her word.

1. She's not the only person I've heard this from.

2. She's not the only person I know who was in attendance there.

3. I know this girl and have known her fiance for several years.

4. This isn't the first time I've heard this 'doctrine' preached somewhere by someone else.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:59 AM
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Thad, it's for several reasons why I take her at her word.

1. She's not the only person I've heard this from.

2. She's not the only person I know who was in attendance there.

3. I know this girl and have known her fiance for several years.

4. This isn't the first time I've heard this 'doctrine' preached somewhere by someone else.
well, i am in sharpe disagreement that there is power in hair but obviously God responded to their Faith. Let's let God decide who he touches and blesses.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:01 AM
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You speak as a white man about the hair of white women. Black men don't speak this way, even in the UPC. Know why? Because God didn't see fit to give black women the ability to grow 'long' hair, in most cases! Black women's hair doesn't look much different than the men, unless the men shave theirs. Their hair isn't an attraction. It doesn't get the stares that long hair on a white women would get.

This is only one of several problems that the 'long hair looks more feminine and gives more of a distinction between genders' arguments have. Black women just can't compete.
HO you may not have meant it to be but i can assure that black women would be highly offended and hurt by your comments in this post
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well, i am in sharpe disagreement that there is power in hair but obviously God responded to their Faith. Let's let God decide who he touches and blesses.
How do you know from that story that God responded to their faith? I didn't read any such account in that story.
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HO you may not have meant it to be but i can assure that black women would be highly offended and hurt by your comments in this post
I'll let them decide that. You are a white man. I just can't imagine how you know what black women might think of my post about the facts of their hair.

There was nothing degrading in any way, nor racist in any way in my post. For most black women, I spoke the absolute facts.

And if I were a black woman, posts about white women's hair and the power it has because of how it looks would be more offensive to me than anything I said about their hair.

Thad, be honest. Have you ever heard black men or black women speak about hair in the way white people do?
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Here's a link about them:

http://www.rickross.com/reference/ra...a_behera5.html

You can search the Rick Ross website for Samanta Roy and come up with several articles.
Samanta Roy established rules of dress that included button-up shirts and dress slacks for the men, Lane said. Women were prohibited from cutting their hair. But later the hair of some women was cut as "recompense for their sins," according to Lane.

"There were always exceptions to the rules," he said. "It doesn't have to be logical, it doesn't have to make sense; Rama says so and that's it."
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Samanta Roy established rules of dress that included button-up shirts and dress slacks for the men, Lane said. Women were prohibited from cutting their hair. But later the hair of some women was cut as "recompense for their sins," according to Lane.

"There were always exceptions to the rules," he said. "It doesn't have to be logical, it doesn't have to make sense; Rama says so and that's it."
The women I have seen don't appear to have cut hair, but then again, they always wear it up in a plain bun-style do. They have a lot of hair, that's plain to see.

Understand that his people work exclusively at his businesses, so they are seen by everyone all the time. I don't believe he hires outsiders, as I've never seen any at his businesses, not even the restaurants.

He does serve beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets, and even rolling papers though.....LOL!
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