James Strong, KJV, Redefinitions of words?

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Can of worms the KJV Onlyist position is once you venture outside of English speaking America.

Naah. red herring.

Many superb Reformation Bible editions in dozens of languages. A person should always use the purest and anointed Bible they can read.

What worms do you see?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Naah. red herring.

Many superb Reformation Bible editions in dozens of languages. A person should always use the purest and anointed Bible they can read.

What worms do you see?

Steven, so you are saying that foreign language Bibles are translated from the KJV? Or the translators check the KJV for accuracy?

[Esaias]

If I am not mistaken there are numerous Bible translations made into other languages using the same text-family the AV is based on, such as the Reina-Valera, the Luther Bible, etc.

I don't know if modern translations into other languages are using different texts, though, or going for an over emphasis on "dynamic equivalence", etc.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Esaias

... temperance has far more nuance and richness in meaning than mere "self control".

Amen.
Quite true.

I was quite surprised that there is an attempt to equate them in English. There is some overlap, and quite a huge difference.

Steven

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

If I am not mistaken there are numerous Bible translations made into other languages using the same text-family the AV is based on, such as the Reina-Valera, the Luther Bible, etc.

I don't know if modern translations into other languages are using different texts, though, or going for an over emphasis on "dynamic equivalence", etc.

Reina Valera, the Haitian Bible, and the Louis Segond all differ from the KJV.

Romans 8:1-2 read like this in the Louis Segond

There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death.

In the KJV it reads like this There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Big difference.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Two dudes from 1836? Please tell me you're joking...

The better Christian writers of the 1800s had tons more insight (into many matters, including the historical excellence of the Reformation Bible) than the writers today, where spiritual and literary poverty abounds.

My heart is grieved that so many of my seminarian duped brethren are trapped in modern claptrap.

However, I also rejoice that so much excellence in scripture and understanding has been made easily available to us, if we will have our spiritual antennae attuned.

Steven

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

The better Christian writers of the 1800s had tons more insight (into many matters, including the historical excellence of the Reformation Bible) than the writers today, where spiritual and literary poverty abounds.

My heart is grieved that so many of my seminarian duped brethren are trapped in modern claptrap.

However, I also rejoice that so much excellence in scripture and understanding has been made easily available to us, if we will have our spiritual antennae attuned.

Steven

Amen to that.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Reina Valera, the Haitian Bible, and the Louis Segond all differ from the KJV.

Romans 8:1-2 read like this in the Louis Segond

There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death.

In the KJV it reads like this There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Big difference.

AHORA pues, ninguna condenación hay para los que están en Cristo Jesús, los que no andan conforme á la carne, mas conforme al espíritu. Porque la ley del Espíritu de vida en Cristo Jesús me ha librado de la ley del pecado y de la muerte.
(Romans 8:1-2 SRV)

I have no idea what text the Segond Bible is based upon, so cannot comment. The Reina Valera appears to be based upon the same text family as the AV.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

The KJV version issue is limited to English. Most languages only have one translation to chose from.

Maybe you are counting languages with a few hundred people as equivalent to languages with 100,000,000? Very strange logic.

English, Spanish, German, Dutch, Finnish, Chinese, Italian, Romanian, Russian, Hebrew, and languages representing about 99% of the population (my estimate) have the same battle of the Bible, and generally it comes down to choosing between two alternatives:

1) the pure Reformation Bible
2) the ultra-corruption versions of the Westcott-Hort recension

With some usage of in-between historical versions like the Peshitta and the Vulgate.

Steven

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

AHORA pues, ninguna condenación hay para los que están en Cristo Jesús, los que no andan conforme á la carne, mas conforme al espíritu. Porque la ley del Espíritu de vida en Cristo Jesús me ha librado de la ley del pecado y de la muerte.
(Romans 8:1-2 SRV)

I have no idea what text the Segond Bible is based upon, so cannot comment. The Reina Valera appears to be based upon the same text family as the AV.

Reina Valera went through its changes since the Oso Bible. We read from KJV, the Spanish RV, HB, and the Segond. Differences come up, which aren't as bad as one would think. I like the Romans 3 in the KJV, because it is what is in the Greek. The Louis Segond leaves out the longer portion in vere one, but the RV keeps it in, but says not to conform to the flesh, but conform to the spirit.