Dave Bernard addresses beards

[dllong]

Originally Posted by philjones

I wore a Vandyke while I was away from God and it was certainly a part of my identity as a sinner. For that reason, even if my pastor did not teach against it, I would choose to be clean shaven. I want no part of the man I used to be. It really simplifies it for me personally!

I had the same reasoning but in reverse. I always shaved as a sinner. Now I don't want to even look like that person again!

So I have a beard.

Bro. Dave

Originally Posted by dllong

I had the same reasoning but in reverse. I always shaved as a sinner. Now I don't want to even look like that person again!

So I have a beard.

Bro. Dave

I believe it was Reverend Ike that said "It takes different strokes for different folks"....

Of course he was talking about the different methods of anointing that we use and how we "get" folks slain in the spirit (just not sure what spirit).

[H2H]

Originally Posted by philjones

CC1 and all,

I guess my dad, as conservative as he was, must have been a one of a kind conservative because when he went to Duncan, OK to pastor in 1972 there was a young man whose family attended the church who wore a full (being interpreted VERY full) beard. He was VERY red headed (what he had left at 20) and could forever more make that big red bodied Gibson talk a la Chet Atkins. Under the previous pastor he had been relegated to the back pew as a rebel. Under my dad's pastorate he was openly fellowshipped and allowed to play his gitfiddle right behind his sister who played the piano. !

WOW. Do some churches have seating assignments too??

Originally Posted by H2H

WOW. Do some churches have seating assignments too??

I have found that you are usually seated how you are treated!

[H2H]

Originally Posted by philjones

I have found that you are usually seated how you are treated!

There is a thought!

But, the new auditoriums allow for very few "bad seats", and the front seats are no longer always the "best Seats" in the house....

Originally Posted by H2H

There is a thought!

But, the new auditoriums allow for very few "bad seats", and the front seats are no longer always the "best Seats" in the house....

You are obviously in a non-traditional sanctuary... only the progressive and highly successful have those confounded fan shaped outfits that makes it too easy for the preacher to spit to the back pew as evidence of his anointing.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I have spoken with good conservative black and Latino pastors both groups have told me that facial hair is a real source of pride in their cultures and a test but they have told me they have had NO problems they just say NO. Most men who have came into the church NOTHING is said to them they look around and do NOT see any facial hair so they shave. Look like us or them that is the choice. Again there are Pentecostal church in our area where the preachers are afraid of their shadows and do not make an issue over anything where they will be welcome to come stay as they are just put the money in the little envelope. But this church has a pastor which happens to be me and it ain't gonna happen here. NOT HERE.

It sounds as if you are very proud of yourself.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

It sounds as if you are very proud of yourself.

:sshhh

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

It sounds as if you are very proud of yourself.

Is there a special shaver for pride?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by CC1

Here is the logic I heard preached growing up in the UPC;

1. Hippies and non conformists wear mustaches and beards. They are rebellious people.

2. Pentecostal men with facial hair are identifying themselves with the rebellious

3. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft

4. Hence Pentecostal men with facial hair are as bad as witches!!

You know what's really funny? I just saw a documentary on the hippie movement and there were more clean shaven men in the video than those with beards. Funny how being clean shaven never is associated with the hippie movement. Talk about pickin and choosin.