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01-19-2020, 03:32 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
Yes you know them (of). What is preaching?
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I think the confusion on both sides of the debate is concerning the word preaching.
The Greek word means to herald, proclaim, which Anna did in the temple
Luke 2:38.
While the five fold ministry preach, that isn't their only job agreed?
The debate goes on forever if we deal with sharing the testimony/herald/preaching with the office apostle, prophet, pastor, teacher, and evangelist who also preach.
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01-19-2020, 05:42 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I think the confusion on both sides of the debate is concerning the word preaching.
The Greek word means to herald, proclaim, which Anna did in the temple
Luke 2:38.
While the five fold ministry preach, that isn't their only job agreed?
The debate goes on forever if we deal with sharing the testimony/herald/preaching with the office apostle, prophet, pastor, teacher, and evangelist who also preach.
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Absolutely.
The five fold ministry are men called if God. Women do not have the authority in that office. Women can teach bible studies to other women, testify, help in the church etc.
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01-19-2020, 05:50 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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Absolutely.
The five fold ministry are men called if God. Women do not have the authority in that office. Women can teach bible studies to other women, testify, help in the church etc.
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Yes, Titus 2:3-4 shows what exactly these older women were to do.
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01-20-2020, 05:23 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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The Lord visited me when I was 8 years old and told me I would be a missionary to Brazil...I had never heard of Brazil or about missionaries...However when I was barely 18 I left for Brazil and the rest is history...I am glad I obeyed. I am not a person with great talents or abilities so I stood many times under trees in pagan villages telling the story of Jesus and today thousands have come to the Lord and there are a host (hundreds) of men preachers...including my husband and sons...I am glad I obeyed...
However as I have always said I did not hear him say preach he called me to be a missionary whatever that may mean to you...to me it has meant doing a little bit of everything over the years...
I am glad I obeyed for to these people my simple obedience has meant eternal life...I have staked my whole eternity on the fact that men and women went everywhere preaching the word of God in the book of Acts and that is my desire to be a book of Acts christian.
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01-20-2020, 07:14 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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A little off topic. How is Sis. Alvear related to Elder Jonathan Alvear? I never heard of this Sister before AFF.
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01-20-2020, 07:16 AM
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A little off topic. How is Sis. Alvear related to Elder Jonathan Alvear? I never heard of this Sister before AFF.
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01-20-2020, 07:21 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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01-20-2020, 07:36 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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A little off topic. How is Sis. Alvear related to Elder Jonathan Alvear? I never heard of this Sister before AFF.
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https://www.inlandlighthouse.com/world-missions/
Bishop Raul and Janice Alvear are lifelong missionaries in Brazil. Bishop Alvear came at a young age to Brazil from Chile with his family to work in missions and Sister Alvear came to Brazil in 1968. Both worked as single missionaries and then at a conference in June 1972 they met in the city of Sao Paulo, Brazil. After a short courtship they were married in December of the same year.
Mission work has been their whole life. From a humble beginning under a tree in a pagan village the work today boasts of several hundred churches, scores of house meetings, radio programs, prison ministries, children’s outreaches, etc. The work includes hundreds of national pastors and several national missionaries with a small extension into the country of Paraguay.
Bishop Alvear just ordained their oldest son as bishop over the entire work while they will travel strengthening the work as long as health and funds permit. The work also includes a Bible school called EBA with many students from different areas studying the precious word of God. The work has extended into 15 of the 23 states of Brazil and contacts in several of the other states. The work also has a large campground in southern Brazil and one in the far north. Although neither is completely finished they will serve future generations.
The Alvear´s oldest adopted son is a native missionary to the Amazon jungle. The work has grown and right now there is great emphasis put on evangelism and church planting. They say, “It has been a privilege, not a sacrifice to live our life on a mission field. There can be no deeper joy than that of saving souls!”
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01-20-2020, 08:13 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
A little off topic. How is Sis. Alvear related to Elder Jonathan Alvear? I never heard of this Sister before AFF.
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Sis. Alvear is married to Raul Alvear who is Elder Jonathan Alvear’s uncle. She is his aunt by marriage.
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01-20-2020, 08:17 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
The Lord visited me when I was 8 years old and told me I would be a missionary to Brazil...I had never heard of Brazil or about missionaries...However when I was barely 18 I left for Brazil and the rest is history...I am glad I obeyed. I am not a person with great talents or abilities so I stood many times under trees in pagan villages telling the story of Jesus and today thousands have come to the Lord and there are a host (hundreds) of men preachers...including my husband and sons...I am glad I obeyed...
However as I have always said I did not hear him say preach he called me to be a missionary whatever that may mean to you...to me it has meant doing a little bit of everything over the years...
I am glad I obeyed for to these people my simple obedience has meant eternal life...I have staked my whole eternity on the fact that men and women went everywhere preaching the word of God in the book of Acts and that is my desire to be a book of Acts christian.
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None of this really crosses with the word of God or the theology of those (myself included) who believe the Bible is clearly against “women preachers”. My question is, does Sister Alvear believe it is acceptable for a woman to be in spiritual authority over a man? That hasn’t been answered (that I have seen). Albeit, I’ve not read the entire thread or the many pages of other threads where this has been debated. I’d rather not have my question answered than to do that!
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