The Reason Some Apostolics Are Concerned: The Results of Erased Lines

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

AB, you're sure pushing buttons today!!!!!!!

I know but I gotta go teach at church tonight so I am outta here. Have a good night. I am just about finished with all this anyway. These guys take it all SO PERSONAL like it is their lot in life to straighten everybody out. LOL

[SDG]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

I know but I gotta go teach at church tonight so I am outta here. Have a good night. I am just about finished with all this anyway. These guys take it all SO PERSONAL like it is their lot in life to straighten everybody out. LOL

Stop!! This is the police ...

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Thank you for your elitist and condescending post to me. I am so thankful I have people like you to remind me of why I left your critical bunch.
Don't stick you nose in my business when you have NO CLUE what I teach and preach and your not my judge.
Who are YOU to tell me that I am failing in my responsibility and that you can decide who is APOSTOLIC and who is not?

I so appreciate you posting scripture on here as I have been preaching for 35 years and have baptized thousands of people in 57 nations. It is so refreshing to see that SOMEONE ELSE believes the HOLY BIBLE!

Sorry..... The post was not directed specifically to you. The "you" was generally to people on this forum that are fearful of proclaiming doctrinal truth. Though I stand behind my comments, I should not have quoted your post. I apologize. You did clarify some of your statements in later posts.

My point is..... I do think that in an age of relativity, we do need an Apostolic voice of Doctrinal Clarity.

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

This thread goes back to the argument of whether to build walls or bridges.

The alarmists want to build walls to keep the bad guys out.

Others want to build bridges to reach out to friends, family and other Christians in hopes of influencing them to their doctrine.

Pianoman do you think we can build bridges to reach out to people without having to compromise our stand on the oneness? I just honestly can't see where a trinity belongs in a oneness pulpit, now a oneness in a trinity pulpit is totally different.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

Pianoman do you think we can build bridges to reach out to people without having to compromise our stand on the oneness? I just honestly can't see where a trinity belongs in a oneness pulpit, now a oneness in a trinity pulpit is totally different.

Absolutely! One can build bridges without compromising anything!

If you were invited to preach in a trinitarian church, would you boldly preach a oneness message and disrespect that church's teachings? I don't think so!

I think you would be cordial and preach a message that would not be considered controversial!

I think the same goes both ways. Everyone is over-reacting!

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by pentecostisalive

Sorry..... The post was not directed specifically to you. The "you" was generally to people on this forum that are fearful of proclaiming doctrinal truth. Though I stand behind my comments, I should not have quoted your post. I apologize. You did clarify some of your statements in later posts.

My point is..... I do think that in an age of relativity, we do need an Apostolic voice of Doctrinal Clarity.

Thank You! I really do appreciate the tone of this post! I did take it personally and believe me - I do know where you are coming from. Those that know me - know I have been a bridge-builder all of my ministry. I do understand from your viewpoint that you think that there needs to be an Apostolic Voice of Doctrinal Clarity. I have no problem with that. The problem I have is when YOU or ANYONE ELSE accuses me and others of not preaching TRUTH because we don't preach "YOUR" brand of it.
This is not personal - I just hate the judging. You may not know it but I preached for 18 years in the most Conservative of the Oneness Pentecostal Churches around the world. I was Independent Ultra-Con then UPC. I preached "the message" as hard as anybody. I have no problem at all with ultra Conservative preaching. I have very close personal friends that are as Conservative as they get. We have an agreement - I don't disrespect them and they don't disrespect me. We both have liberties in areas that the other is uncomfortable with. We agree that we will NOT break fellowship over these things.
I love my friends and have their back and they have mine. I don't mind if a sister wears her dresses till they drag the floor and her hair is Grey and down to the floor - that is her right and her conviction - I honor that - just don't tell me that someone else is lost because they do not have the same conviction.

Personally - I think you have way too many Apostolic Voices of Doctrinal Clarity and it is about as clear as mud for the most part. There is not a lot of across the board agreement on much. Well, Another thread for another time. I gotta get to church!
Bless you and again - Thank you!
AB

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

So "ultracon" is now defined as adherance to Oneness doctrine?

Sheesh, paint me conservative.

In the begining of this thread Steadfast and I discussed some change in mind set I have had on some issues, but if UC is holding to the oneness and never willing to give that up then I guess I am also a UC. I have the revelation of truth won't deny it for anything or anyone.

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Absolutely! One can build bridges without compromising anything!

If you were invited to preach in a trinitarian church, would you boldly preach a oneness message and disrespect that church's teachings? I don't think so!

I think you would be cordial and preach a message that would not be considered controversial!

I think the same goes both ways. Everyone is over-reacting!

Yes I would be cordial in his pulpit. I would in a closed session work with the pastor to bring him to where I am. I have light that he doesn't have. He is not walking in doctrinal light that I need. He is actually still in darkness.

I just don't see where me preaching for him is equal to him preaching for me.

How many trinity preachers have you guys baptized in Jesus name as a result of them preaching for you?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

Yes I would be cordial in his pulpit. I would in a closed session work with the pastor to bring him to where I am. I have light that he doesn't have. He is not walking in doctrinal light that I need. He is actually still in darkness.

I just don't see where me preaching for him is equal to him preaching for me.

How many trinity preachers have you guys baptized in Jesus name as a result of them preaching for you?

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[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

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Instead of making them into sinners, take them from where they are and lead them into more truth!