The Mosque Should Be Built!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

To my AFF buddies, just got in from a 20 mile Hammer, and hot, homemade pizza is on the table. I'll be bowing out for the evening!! Hold the Fort!

BTW, my good wife reminded me, people were litterally standing in the gaping hole where the plane had made impact into the Tower. Pretty hot flames, I'd say.

You have got to be better at reasoning than this. The impact of an aircraft flying at about 440 miles per hours will propel the wreckage, fuel and debris forward. After an hour or so those who were trapped in the inferno above the impact site made their way down.

If the "the flames" were so commodious for human health, why didn't these people just stay in their cubicles?

A roll of nickels from the WTC. The coins are "frozen" together, I guess.

7a. How could the steel have melted if the fires in the WTC towers weren’t hot enough to do so?
OR
7b. Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit and Underwriters Laboratories (UL) certified the steel in the WTC towers to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit for six hours, how could fires have impacted the steel enough to bring down the WTC towers?

In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (2,800 degrees Fahrenheit). Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 1,100 degrees Celsius (2,000 degrees Fahrenheit). NIST reported maximum upper layer air temperatures of about 1,000 degrees Celsius (1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the WTC towers (for example, see NCSTAR 1, Figure 6-36).

However, when bare steel reaches temperatures of 1,000 degrees Celsius, it softens and its strength reduces to roughly 10 percent of its room temperature value. Steel that is unprotected (e.g., if the fireproofing is dislodged) can reach the air temperature within the time period that the fires burned within the towers. Thus, yielding and buckling of the steel members (floor trusses, beams, and both core and exterior columns) with missing fireproofing were expected under the fire intensity and duration determined by NIST for the WTC towers.

UL did not certify any steel as suggested. In fact, in U.S. practice, steel is not certified at all; rather structural assemblies are tested for their fire resistance rating in accordance with a standard procedure such as ASTM E 119 (see NCSTAR 1-6B). That the steel was “certified ... to 2000 degrees Fahrenheit for six hours” is simply not true.

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

You really shouldn't revel in being so dull.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by coadie

No as a matter of fact.

You lie. Our family started and funded a Mission to the Muslims from the 1950's

While you are a big liar, I was reading a Mennonite journal tonight. I served my country as a conscientious objector. Many of our pacifist relatives are having problems in Mexico because we do not own guns and guess who does.
liars make up stuff to be afraid of. Most of us have never owned a firearm. I never have.

Dishonest people like yourself are trigger happy at making false accusations.How in your wild imagination could people that do not own guns shoot someone? You make assumptions and avoid facts.

Coadie, are you using that crack stuff again that Pel has talked about? Good grief almighty, you are messed up. I wasn't talking to you, wasn't responding to you, and you didn't even cross my mind. I was talking to James the Genius who sounds like he's about the revolt against the government in the name of Jesus and start throwing grenades at people.

This is several times you've done this. Could you do me a favor and not butt in when I'm talking to someone? It's making you look like an idiot (which may actually apply).

[james34]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Coadie, are you using that crack stuff again that Pel has talked about? Good grief almighty, you are messed up. I wasn't talking to you, wasn't responding to you, and you didn't even cross my mind. I was talking to James the Genius who sounds like he's about the revolt against the government in the name of Jesus and start throwing grenades at people.

This is several times you've done this. Could you do me a favor and not butt in when I'm talking to someone? It's making you look like an idiot (which may actually apply).

is mr smith a christian?

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by james34

is mr smith a christian?

Yes. Do you believe it was ok for Scott Roeder to kill Dr. George Tiller, the abortion doctor?

[james34]

no way dont know them but killing is wrong.From my heart i dont support killing.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by james34

no way dont know them but killing is wrong.From my heart i dont support killing.

Ok well, I'm glad about that. You were starting to sound like these militia people that go around shooting people and hold their bible while they're doing it. When you did the "God's law is above our law" and used that for a basis of prohibiting a mosque, you scared me.

[james34]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Ok well, I'm glad about that. You were starting to sound like these militia people that go around shooting people and hold their bible while they're doing it. When you did the "God's law is above our law" and used that for a basis of prohibiting a mosque, you scared me.

Idont understand how christians can be in agreement with muslims.

[james34]

We cant prohibit what men do but we dont have to agree with it.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Yes. Do you believe it was ok for Scott Roeder to kill Dr. George Tiller, the abortion doctor?

Do you think Tiller was a Christian? Tiller claimed to be a Christian. He attended Reformed Lutheran church. Roeder was not a Christian. He was a murderor as was Tiller. Tiller will split the gates of hell wide open and encounter Roeder again unless Roeder repents.

The leftist heathen don't oppose horrific abortion. slaughter of the unborn is everyday stuff.
BTK was another serial murderor. He also in the same community was active in his Lutheran church. claimed to be a Christian and a murderor.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by james34

Idont understand how christians can be in agreement with muslims.

They aren't. It is a test for discernement. As in the case of the 2 Lutheran churches. The one murderor BTK attended and the one Famous Tiller the killer attended. Tillers church discerned money and he gave lots. Killing of the unborn is no problemo.

Many liberal teachers condone support of the Muslims who still kill innocents, rape children, practice slavery and ask for tolerance.