Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Newman

The U.S. Law in effect during Mr. Obama’s birth stated if you are born abroad to one U.S. parent and a foreign national, the U.S. parent must have resided in the United States for ten (10) years, five (5) of which were after the age of Fourteen (14) in order to register the child’s birth abroad in the United States as a "natural born" U.S. citizen, under the Nationality Act of 1940, revised June 1952, United States of America v. Cervantes-Nava, 281 F.3d 501 (2002), Drozd v. I.N.S., 155 F.3d 81, 85-88 (2d Cir.1998), United States v. Gomez-Orozco, 188 F.3d 422, 426-27 (7th Cir. 1999), Scales v. Immigration and Naturalization Service 232 F.3d 1159 (9th Cir. 2000), Solis-Espinoza v. Gonzales 401 F.3d 1090 (9th Cir. 2005).

Under the Nationality Act of 1940, revised June 1952, is the law that applies to a birth abroad and is in effect at the time of birth, MarquezMarquez a/k/a Moreno v. Gonzales 455 F. 3d 548 (5th Cir. 2006), Runnett v. Shultz, 901 F.2d 782, 783 (9th Cir.1990) (holding that "the applicable law for transmitting citizenship to a child born abroad when one parent is a U.S. citizen is the statute that was in effect at the time of the child’s birth").

Stanley Ann Dunham, Mr. Barry Soetoro’s mother, was only 18 when she gave birth to Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. She was not old enough to register Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else as a United States "natural born" citizen as she did not meet the residency requirements pursuant to our United States Laws; as such it does not matter that this is a minor technicality, the law is applied regardless -- see United States of America v. Cervantes-Nava, 281 F.3d 501 (2002), Drozd v. I.N.S., 155 F.3d 81, 85-88 (2d Cir.1998).

I have read this many times.
The Obama drama Drones believe they can trump these laws by using a forged/fake docunment.
Today Obama is coming unhinged. His Healthscare bill is choking. His minions are afraid of going home for recess and facing confrontations.
Obama has a little relief since all the living witnesses are dead.
According to twisp, Daffy Duck is elgible for POTUS unless we can prove old daffy isn't. (the only other reason is that every one assumes daffy is elgible because no one has stepped forward to reject the duck)

It seems we need educational reform.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Twisp

That is not true. The 14th amendment clearly states that:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Moreover, the Civil Rights Act of 1886 clearly states "that all persons born in the United States not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed," were citizens of the United States. Such citizens were "of every race and color" and "without regard to any previous condition of slavery or involuntary servitude."

Obama's parent's citizenship did not preclude him from being a US born citizen. He is a citizen by virtue of being born in the United States.

American citizen vs. Natural born American citizen

The clause of the Constitution that says a president must be "natural born" made an exception for the founding fathers who were grandfathered into the Constitution. Why? Because none of them were natural born nor would they be considered natural born upon citizenship.

Clearly then we can see that American citizenship by itself is not the only test for being president. Instead the natural born clause which is distinct from citizenship alone; comes into play. It was put there to protect our nation from a president who might have divided loyalities. Hmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Except that the 14th amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1886 grants citizenship to children, born in the United States to foreign parents.

Also see "United States vs Wong Kim Ark", a case in 1898 that set a precedent for Birthright Citizenship:

Held: In a 6-2 decision, the Court held that under the Fourteenth Amendment, a child born in the United States of parents of foreign descent who, at the time of the child's birth are subjects of a foreign power but who have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are carrying on business in the United States, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under a foreign power, and are not members of foreign forces in hostile occupation of United States territory, becomes a citizen of the United States at the time of birth.

That is from Wikipedia, here is the link, sources are at the bottom of the page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...._Wong_Kim_Ark

Idiots go to wiki for law. Wiki law for dummies.


Wrong again. You don't seem to differentiate between natural born citizen and citizen.

Ol ted kennedy says:
There's thinkers and there's Dewars. Make mine a double.


Citizens and becoming a citizen. Over your head twusp.
NATURAl BORN
Obama drones will twist the law. The deal you quoted is NOT pertinent to this mattter.
We use over the years law books from matt Bender Prentice Hall, Callaghans, commerce clearing House, Westlaw Lexis Nexis.Most on Cd or subscription. On line Cornell

Wiki is where nose pickers look up law.
It is as sloppy as snopes.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Newman

American citizen vs. Natural born American citizen

The clause of the Constitution that says a president must be "natural born" made an exception for the founding fathers who were grandfathered into the Constitution. Why? Because none of them were natural born nor would they be considered natural born upon citizenship.

Clearly then we can see that American citizenship by itself is not the only test for being president. Instead the natural born clause which is distinct from citizenship alone; comes into play. It was put there to protect our nation from a president who might have divided loyalities. Hmm...

Obama was natural born. He was born in Hawaii, thus he meets that requirement to being president, along with all others.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

Idiots go to wiki for law. Wiki law for dummies.


Wrong again. You don't seem to differentiate between natural born citizen and citizen.

Ol ted kennedy says:
There's thinkers and there's Dewars. Make mine a double.


Citizens and becoming a citizen. Over your head twusp.
NATURAl BORN
Obama drones will twist the law. The deal you quoted is NOT pertinent to this mattter.
We use over the years law books from matt Bender Prentice Hall, Callaghans, commerce clearing House, Westlaw Lexis Nexis.Most on Cd or subscription. On line Cornell

Wiki is where nose pickers look up law.
It is as sloppy as snopes.

You realize you didn't explain anything in this post? Just called people names and frothed at the mouth. lol.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Newman

American citizen vs. Natural born American citizen

The clause of the Constitution that says a president must be "natural born" made an exception for the founding fathers who were grandfathered into the Constitution. Why? Because none of them were natural born nor would they be considered natural born upon citizenship.

Clearly then we can see that American citizenship by itself is not the only test for being president. Instead the natural born clause which is distinct from citizenship alone; comes into play. It was put there to protect our nation from a president who might have divided loyalities. Hmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI

Born to parents that are both citizens.

http://www.lexisnexis.com/store/cata...sp?prodId=6769
Twist can look up law in a real legal site. There are real law books. It's great to work in a company with a real library and real subscriptions.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Obama was natural born. He was born in Hawaii, thus he meets that requirement to being president, along with all others.

Also not true. He was born to two parents and they were not both citizens.
Actually their marriage may have been illegal because he was legally married to another woman and had never gotten a legal divorce.
That tells us they lied on their marriage application.
The dad lied about his previous marriage. He was still married to a wife in Africa. Obama is a biblical bastard. I assume she did get her parents permission to marry as required by law because it would have shown that she was preggers.

Go read the Hawaaii marriage lisence application. It requires truth and the laws are on the back. Barack obama Sr DID not honesty fill out the questions regarding number of marriages and divorce from prior marriages.

You so mad. The next problem, if Baracky Senior lied about the other wife, then the marriage is void and being adoped as a minor and becoming a citizen of Indonesia is no problem. No problem other than it calls for his citizenship in america to never have been valid.
I like Obama He is just totally unfit for the job. Far too much unethical activity driven by him. His minions adore him.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

Also not true. He was born to two parents and they were not both citizens.
Actually their marriage may have been illegal because he was legally married to another woman and had never gotten a legal divorce.
That tells us they lied on their marriage application.
The dad lied about his previous marriage. He was still married to a wife in Africa. Obama is a biblical bastard. I assume she did get her parents permission to marry as required by law because it would have shown that she was preggers.

Go read the Hawaaii marriage lisence application. It requires truth and the laws are on the back. Barack obama Sr DID not honesty fill out the questions regarding number of marriages and divorce from prior marriages.

You so mad. The next problem, if Baracky Senior lied about the other wife, then the marriage is void and being adoped as a minor and becoming a citizen of Indonesia is no problem. No problem other than it calls for his citizenship in america to never have been valid.
I like Obama He is just totally unfit for the job. Far too much unethical activity driven by him. His minions adore him.

Again, it does not matter where his parents were from or if they were married. Him being born in Hawaii makes him a natural US citizen according to the 14th amendment. Please see the case I included in my last post to Newman. It set precedent for these types of cases.

I am not mad, I am enjoying rebutting your misinformation.

Again, any proof you would like to show to back up your accusation of him not being a US citizen would be greatly appreciated.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Again, it does not matter where his parents were from or if they were married. Him being born in Hawaii makes him a natural US citizen according to the 14th amendment. Please see the case I included in my last post to Newman. It set precedent for these types of cases.

I am not mad, I am enjoying rebutting your misinformation.
Again, any proof you would like to show to back up your accusation of him not being a US citizen would be greatly appreciated.

wiki law? You seem to be extremely uneducated.
The video explained the law since you can't use a law book subscription

We repeat the same stuff. His dad wasn't legally married to Stanley, he still had a wife in Africa
You didn't read the HI marriage laws.
so you "rebbutted nothing"

You seem to be unable to understand BOTH parents need to be citizens. That means 2 out of 2

Looks like Obama is kinda a cheater deciever also. runs in the family.
His mothers citizenship is insignificant due to her vbeing under 18 at the time of his birth

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...agelicense.pdf

do you think it is OK for liberals to lie on their birth certificates?

"There have been some doubts about whether Obama was born in the U.S. after the politician refused to release to the public a carbon copy of his birth certificate and amid claims from his relatives he may have been born in Kenya. Numerous lawsuits have been filed petitioning Obama to release his birth certificate, but most suits have been thrown out by the courts."
As is required on the online encyclopedia, that entry was backed up by third-party media articles, citing the Chicago Tribune and WorldNetDaily.com

The entry was posted on Feb. 24, at 6:16 p.m. EST. Just three minutes later, the entry was removed by a Wikipedia administrator, claiming the posting violated the websites rules against "fringe" material.

This is why educated people avoid wiki.

If you can pick your nose, you can post on wiki. If you can pick your nose and whine (and call it fringe material) you can have it removed.

Of course it is all fringe material on snopes. They physically verify nothing.

You need to go to school and have a teacher show you how to do research.

[oletime]

coadie, i am rofl my, you know what off, keep up the good work, abama drones cant stand the truth or believe it when they do read it. I CANT WAIT TIL THIS HEALTH BILL BITES THE DUST SO WE CAN SEE HIM SQUIRM . yes we cant!!!!