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03-26-2007, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rrford
And I am not so sure that wasn't their intnent. Remember the entire movement was relatively new to these men. They may very well have realized that as a group they could pray, study and worship together until a true "unity" was found. JMO.
In all honesty, I see no other conclusion to be drawn. Either they had unity of the faith or they were willing to pursue it together. From the wording it seems to me they were on a pursuit.
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What was new to them RR ... Oneness? If so, they had over 30 years under there belt
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03-26-2007, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Reminds me of the time -
I popular Pastor and Presbyter/Board Member at the time came to me at a District Campmeeting and said (pointing at my small cuff links) - "WE DON'T WEAR CUFF LINKS HERE IN GEORGIA!" I said - "Oh yes - WE do!" Again - he pointed his finger in my chest as about 10 men stood around and said - "I SAID - WE DO NOT WEAR CUFF LINKS HERE IN GEORGIA!"
I just laughed and said - "I SAID - OH YES WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DO - INCLUDING YOU!"
He said - "What are you talking about - I only wear the silk ones and have never wore gold or silver ones!"
I said - "Oh yes you have and that is exactly why I am wearing these - because YOU set the precedent for wearing them!"
He was so shocked and denied EVER wearing them. "Well - I NEVER" he proclaimed!
I reminded him that when I came to Georgia with the UPC - I did not wear cuff links. They wore them for the most part in UPC - Florida along with other jewelry.
So I did not wear them in Georgia - but then I went to a church to preach and this NOW finger pointer - he was the presbyter and lo and behold when we were praying at the altar with people - he took his coat off and he had big ole CUFF LINKS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never said a word about it until he jumped ME for having some on!
He said sheepishly, "Well - I did - but I had forgot mine and had to borrow some from the pastor and that was all he had." But he said - "I still don't believe in them!" LOL
And that ladies and gentlemen is one reason I wear big gawdy GOLD cuff links today - I was persuaded and influenced by EXAMPLE - by a genuine Son of the Superintendent, Preacher in the most Conservative "Apostolic" churches and campmeetings, Presbyter, Pastor and former "friend"!
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For what it is worth, you might be interested ot know this man speaks well of you.
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03-26-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
TF, makes a strong argument in his book that the intent of Westburg's and AS was directed at pruning the PCIers ... I think the proof is in looking at some of the prominent PCIers that dropped out as a result of the AS... coincidence ... I think not.
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Not sure we can really look at that as definitive proof. It definitely is TF's opinion.
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03-26-2007, 11:25 PM
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It's bad when you're debating cuff links ....
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03-26-2007, 11:26 PM
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He is a good man!
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Originally Posted by rrford
For what it is worth, you might be interested ot know this man speaks well of you.
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And I speak well of him and LOVE HIM! He is a great man - but he did wear cuff links!
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03-26-2007, 11:26 PM
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What was new to them RR ... Oneness? If so, they had over 30 years under there belt
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They had 30 years on Oneness. As far as salvific doctrine they were on different pages. And those pages were developed fairly recently for them. I bellieve that underscores part of the reasoning as to why these groups could merge. They realized much of their belief structure was born out of the new revival.
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03-26-2007, 11:26 PM
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AB maybe we can trade cufflinks,I trade you some simple ones, for some of your highbrow ones.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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03-26-2007, 11:27 PM
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And I speak well of him and LOVE HIM! He is a great man - but he did wear cuff links!
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Don't doubt it. Love the GA district. Very unique group of men.
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03-26-2007, 11:27 PM
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Not sure we can really look at that as definitive proof. It definitely is TF's opinion.
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He has many sources and interviews on both side... on the subject .... of the 1992 AS ... I don't know if you would call simply HIS OPINION.
I think I'll start a thread to examine this ... further 
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03-26-2007, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
It's bad when you're debating cuff links ....
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.....as the world dies and goes to hell. What a sad thing!
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