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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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So then, even if my own baptism wasn't "perfect" - my faith in Jesus Christ still saves me?
Like Peter puts it- "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us ... by the resurrection of Jesus Christ." 1 Peter 3:21 Peter tells us how baptism saves us - by what only Jesus Christ Himself could accomplish, the resurrection from the dead.
I was saved and was baptized ( Mark 16:16), but it was Jesus Christ Himself who saved me, not my baptism. |
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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They were concerned about having the knowledge or an awareness of what the apostles and others were experiencing....The infilling of the Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. It was something new to them and they were inquisitive. They asked what they should do. They knew there was something amazing and totally out of the ordinary happening. Somehow they knew it was something good. They knew it was something they wanted. Whatever you call it, it was something that they KNEW instinctively they desired.
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Yes amen. For you and your children.
They are also required to then break bread and take communion - or they are none of His. This should not be taken to mean they obtain salvation through the same.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
Yet another thread to avoid now.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
JTullock - Thanks!
I'll keep trying to be myself.
Off subject, but today I actually received an email from my former spouse thanking me for being me. Hard to be anyone else because I am me. lol!
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Howard Goss, first G.S. of UPC told Bro. Carl Ballestero at a camp meeting in Indiana that "even the Baptists will be in the Bride of Christ."
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If he said that, Goss was mistaken.
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Yet another thread to avoid now.
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Why? There are no fights here - just discussion.
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
Howard Goss admitted that some of his associates interpreted Acts 2:38 as positing the remission of sins through water baptism. His own position however, was that baptism occurred because sins had already been remitted.
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
From our rules:
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
Those that believe that every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith
with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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IF one has not been baptized in Jesus name, then according to the rules here at AFF, they have not been obedient to the ONLY bible pattern of baptism. This would place those that believe that you can be baptized any ole way and still be saved outside of agreement with these rules.
I think the joke here is that Daniel wanted to try to push this off, yet later on he plainly states that the mode of Baptism is not important. So Daniel, your vote don't count.
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How could a person be disobedient if they are being baptized in the way they were taught? I do not believe ... no do 1 steppers believe in OSAS, btw.
Furthermore .... are the not being baptized under the authority and power of the name Jesus was given and gave to his disciple in Matthew 28 ...?
Also ...the biblical meaning of "in the name of "... is entirely a different discussion for another day, Tim.
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06-30-2008, 09:58 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Renda, you opened a flood gate in me just now. You are awesome. Don't stop being yourself!
I agree it matters not who baptized you. It matters that you were baptized. I say this without confusion baptism should be administered in Jesus name. Having said that I stand firm behind what I said on this forum months ago. The word in the Bible baptiso or baptismo both speak to washing as in washing hands, dunking something like cookies in milk as example, running under water-like washing hands, DROWNING-like dying because you consume too much water. In other words, it was and is a common word used in various ways. There are a lot of people that put a ton of importance into the word and pull out the meaning of dunk or dip under and say 'that is why baptism is to be administered in dunking under the water. Baptism is a outward sign that you have mad Christ your King.
In the Bible the baptism was administered in the name of the person that the person being baptized had followed. People following John were baptized in John name because the followed him. Following God/Jesus we are to be baptized in his name, however, the mode of baptism is not the most important factor in the whole procees. The important factor is that the one being baptized is identifying with the one they are following now, Jesus the Christ!
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Acts 4:12. No other name, given among men, whereby we must be saved. Titles do not remit sin.
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