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03-06-2007, 10:29 AM
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What is the point of this thread???
Did I miss something??
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03-06-2007, 10:30 AM
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What is the point of this thread???
Did I miss something??
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Ask Coonskinner. 
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03-06-2007, 10:32 AM
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What is the point of this thread???
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Since when was a point a requirement of a thread? 
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03-06-2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Anybody recall that passage of Scripture?
You might be careful pronouncing folks "of the devil."
If by chance you were wrong about them...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Thanks for saying this, CS. It amazes me that people have no fear when it comes to criticizing God's people.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-06-2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
If someone says a lie, a lie is of the devil. If someone preaches false doctrine, that is of the devil. Those who are of a bad spirit, and are not saved are of the devil. But, they can get saved, can repent, and be of God.
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So, if a person lies, it isn't because he chose to lie but because the devil made him do it? Since Jesus said "there is none good but God," how can any unsaved person have a "good" spirit? Are we humans not born with a sinful nature and with a heart (seat of emotions, core of one's being) that is "deceitful" above all things "and desperately wicked"?
When are we going to stop removing from humans their responsibility for their own words, actions, attitudes, and beliefs? When are we going to stop placing the blame anywhere except in the wickedness of our own nature?
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03-06-2007, 10:37 AM
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[QUOTE=MissBrattified;29314]Thanks for saying this, CS. It amazes me that people have no fear when it comes to criticizing God's people.[/QUOTE]
Some are quick to do it, because they feel they know that those they critisize are not God's people.
And therin lies the problem.
God help them if they are wrong.
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03-06-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Some are quick to do it, because they feel they know that those they critisize are not God's people.
And therin lies the problem.
God help them if they are wrong.
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You're right. Folks justify their criticism by assuring themselves inwardly that those they are criticizing are actually ungodly, Pharisees, or the like.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-06-2007, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chan
So, if a person lies, it isn't because he chose to lie but because the devil made him do it? Since Jesus said "there is none good but God," how can any unsaved person have a "good" spirit? Are we humans not born with a sinful nature and with a heart (seat of emotions, core of one's being) that is "deceitful" above all things "and desperately wicked"?
When are we going to stop removing from humans their responsibility for their own words, actions, attitudes, and beliefs? When are we going to stop placing the blame anywhere except in the wickedness of our own nature?
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Chan ... I could not agree more. It's time we are held accountable.
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03-06-2007, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Chan
So, if a person lies, it isn't because he chose to lie but because the devil made him do it? Since Jesus said "there is none good but God," how can any unsaved person have a "good" spirit? Are we humans not born with a sinful nature and with a heart (seat of emotions, core of one's being) that is "deceitful" above all things "and desperately wicked"?
When are we going to stop removing from humans their responsibility for their own words, actions, attitudes, and beliefs? When are we going to stop placing the blame anywhere except in the wickedness of our own nature?
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It is my belief that folk give the devil far more credit for things than he deserves. Most of our problems stem from our own stinking flesh.
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03-06-2007, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Chan
So, if a person lies, it isn't because he chose to lie but because the devil made him do it? Since Jesus said "there is none good but God," how can any unsaved person have a "good" spirit? Are we humans not born with a sinful nature and with a heart (seat of emotions, core of one's being) that is "deceitful" above all things "and desperately wicked"?
When are we going to stop removing from humans their responsibility for their own words, actions, attitudes, and beliefs? When are we going to stop placing the blame anywhere except in the wickedness of our own nature?
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Sin is a human condition. It always amazes me when people blame the devil for everything. The devil may tempt us, but ultimately we choose sin of our own accord.
Sometimes I think its easier for folks to blame the devil than to take responsibility for their own actions. e.g., "The Devil made me do it!"
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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