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10-31-2007, 01:17 AM
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First Lady
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
The reason some are concerned is they are Control Freaks.
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AB,
Could it be that there are some with genuine convictions....? Could it be that there are some that really believe that it is wrong and feel that they would be doing themselves and others an injustice if they stayed? Could it be that they have to answer to God for the decisions that they make and more importantly to them are the way God thinks about them and not not what man thinks.
Granted there are some that are control freaks, but not all of them, not even 1/16 of them are, but you are painting with a major broad brush here and it's not fair to most of the Apostolic brethern who are trying their best to live and move in the direction that they feel GOD is pointing them in.
I respect you, bro, but this is going just a tad bit too far in my opinion, such as it is.
I know I'm probably in way over my head, but felt that I couldn't let this go.
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10-31-2007, 01:20 AM
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Urban Pastor
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Salisbury, NC
Posts: 2,214
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Credibility
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
For your information, AB, I have no double standard and I'm not a hypocrite. In fact, I still believe what I've always believed.
Let me help you out in another area... you're credibility on AFF is seriously almost non-existant because of silly rants like the one above.
You forget, AB, I do know you... what you once preached and what you said you believed. To call me a hypocrite is way over the line when I'm still standing where I've always stood.
I have so much to say... but your post pretty much sums up what you are.
Enough said...
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I did not say YOU have a double standard and did not accuse YOU of being a hypocrite - I don't even know you - you say I do - but I am not sure of that!
I did not come on this forum to establish my credibility! I lost all that when I left the UPC like everyone else does. We are all so great when we are raising the $$$$ but when we leave - then we have no credibility!
LOL Chill out - I am not fighting you!
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10-31-2007, 01:20 AM
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Back to the topic: THREE votes... and I find that a sad reproach.
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10-31-2007, 01:20 AM
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Me and my sister Terri
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,767
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Well - I am sounding mean and grouchy! LOL BAD BISHOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steadfast - I was not talking about you personally - It was not meant for you. I just know a LOT of these guys and I know a lot of it is about Control. They certainly tried to control me here in GA - I know about that first hand.
God bless you what ever you do - it don't matter to me. I do get a little passionate at times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am tired and sleepy and should be in bed!
GOOD NIGHT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good Night, I got your PM. I am leaving Jamacia in a few hours. They are having me back in APRIL 08.
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10-31-2007, 01:21 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
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The bottom line is that there are people on both sides of this issue that just can't stand it that someone else has a different viewpoint than their own. Two sides of the same coin.
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10-31-2007, 01:23 AM
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Me and my sister Terri
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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I sang at Bishop Horace Smiths(presiding bishop of the PAW org) church this past Sunday.He feels we worship the doctrine more than Jesus.
I tend to agree with him.
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10-31-2007, 01:24 AM
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First Lady
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Rico
The bottom line is that there are people on both sides of this issue that just can't stand it that someone else has a different viewpoint than their own. Two sides of the same coin.
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That may be true for some, but not all. Most are men with true convictions that they felt are being violated.
No, you may not understand, but that doesn't make it wrong, it makes it taking a stand and standing for what they truly believe in.
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10-31-2007, 01:25 AM
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Urban Pastor
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Salisbury, NC
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If you will READ my POST- I said
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"The reason some are concerned is they are Control Freaks."
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I did not say Steadfast. I did not say ALL, I did not say MOST, I said - SOME!
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10-31-2007, 01:27 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
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Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner
That may be true for some, but not all. Most are men with true convictions that they felt are being violated.
No, you may not understand, but that doesn't make it wrong, it makes it taking a stand and standing for what they truly believe in.
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If someone has a conviction against something then they need to have it to themselves and not expect everyone else to have the same conviction, Sister.
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10-31-2007, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandra
I sang at Bishop Horace Smiths(presiding bishop of the PAW org) church this past Sunday.He feels we worship the doctrine more than Jesus.
I tend to agree with him.
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I find that an interesting phrase but the truth is that TRUE worshipers have to worship in 'spirit' AND in 'TRUTH'. The trinity is a lie, however, and cannot be seen by those who love truth as 'acceptable'.
I have seen men who were brutish with doctrine but, if the Bible still counts for anything, it tells us that we are built on the doctrine. It surely can be imbalanced either way. Even so, spirit without truth is a house built on sand.
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