If I were the wife and the pastor asked me a question, I would send him to my husband for the answer.
See, that would be easy enough. "Pastor, you'll have to ask my husband about that." *smile* *walk away*
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Quite honestly, I agree with Ferd. The legitimacy of the TV rule is not really the heart of the issue. The true questions are:
* Was the husband being dishonest?
* Was the wife put in a situation where she had to answer a difficult question and chose honesty?
* If so, why would the husband put her in such a position?
* If she volunteered the information, what prompted her to do so?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Well, if your husband commits a murder and you knew it, under law you don't have to testify against him.
Your testimony against him doesn't count in court, but if you assisted him or hid his crime or helped him cover his tracks in ANY way, you could be placed in jail for conspiracy or such charges. And I imagine that, for a Christian at least, honesty should be pretty important.
I'm not real fond of folks who break rules behind the pastors' back just so they won't be kicked out of their leadership positions. Either abide by the rules, or remove yourself from the position. There's no gray area. Its called: Ethics.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
If I were the wife and the pastor asked me a question, I would send him to my husband for the answer.
That's a good policy, uh....use their own rules against them. Say you are submissive to the husband and he is the head of the household, deal with him Pastor.
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Quite honestly, I agree with Ferd. The legitimacy of the TV rule is not really the heart of the issue. The true questions are:
* Was the husband being dishonest?
* Was the wife put in a situation where she had to answer a difficult question and chose honesty?
* If so, why would the husband put her in such a position?
* If she volunteered the information, what prompted her to do so?
I thought of all of those plue
*what is going on between the husband and the wife
*why is the husband trying to be involved in ministry in a church where he cannot be in agreement with the pastor
the list goes on and on. this deal is LOADED.
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Your testimony against him doesn't count in court, but if you assisted him or hid his crime or helped him cover his tracks in ANY way, you could be placed in jail for conspiracy or such charges. And I imagine that, for a Christian at least, honesty should be pretty important.
I'm not real fond of folks who break rules behind the pastors' back just so they won't be kicked out of their leadership positions. Either abide by the rules, or remove yourself from the position. There's no gray area. Its called: Ethics.
Or have their wife buy the TV so they can say they never bought a TV, or I really like this one.......put the TV in the garage and say they don't have a TV in their home.
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"Pastor, you'll have to ask my husband about that." *smile* *walk away*
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