IF Res 4 Does NOT Pass??

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Salt&Light

You know, I would hope all of those who are in the org who have T.V's would turn in their licences, and do what's right, but the reality of it is they have not done it yet. They sign when they get thier license and each year an affidavit that states they do not have a television in their home. So they need to repent and either get rid of their televisions or get out. "All liars shall have their place in the lake of fire." I don't care how good you can speak.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.


What a simpleton statement.

I suppose everyone who violates any of the "stongly disapproved of" issues needs to do the same? That would leave about two people from Kansas left in the UPC.

Originally Posted by pelathais

I agree about the res coming up over and over. In so many ways we are all just waiting for a particular generation and it's mindset to die off.

We must stay in this wilderness until all of their carcasses become a prey. Then we can claim our inheritance.

I'll tell you what! I happen to know a large group of young men who will not let the truth die off, so you will die waiting for those who stand for holiness to die off. God is raising up men with integrity who will not stand for anything less, no matter what anyone thinks.

I haven't heard anyone say they would leave if it did not pass. I think everyone knows that due to the emergence of technology they will be able to be on soon anyways without going against the manual.

If it fails this year it is only avoiding the inevitable for a short time.

[LaVonne]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Many Cons have stated plainly that they will leave if the Res 4 passes. I am curious to know what those that are supporting Res 4 will do if it does not pass.

Will you go ahead and start advertising anyway?
Will there be another "Resolution Run" at a future GC?
Will you leave the Org?
Will you back away and just let it go, allowing that the Org is settled in NOT having tv as a viable means of evangelizing?



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Will you get rid of the TV you have ready and waiting for a passed resolution?

Just for the record, not all those hoping for Res. 4 to pass have television. I know many who are wanting this resolution to pass and they (including ourselves) have never had television and probably never will.

Originally Posted by Salt&Light

I'll tell you what! I happen to know a large group of young men who will not let the truth die off, so you will die waiting for those who stand for holiness to die off. God is raising up men with integrity who will not stand for anything less, no matter what anyone thinks.

I haven't met anyone under, say, 30 who actually understand/agrees with all the standards...

I'd be interested in meeting these "young men" who think pants are evil and advertising on TV is different than broadcasting 24/7 via the Internet, etc., etc., etc....

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Blah, blah, blah, blah.


What a simpleton statement.

I suppose everyone who violates any of the "stongly disapproved of" issues needs to do the same? That would leave about two people from Kansas left in the UPC.

You should get out more. Every great preacher I can think of that has a great revival church is strong on standards, strong against tv and loves souls.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Salt&Light

You know, I would hope all of those who are in the org who have T.V's would turn in their licences, and do what's right, but the reality of it is they have not done it yet. They sign when they get thier license and each year an affidavit that states they do not have a television in their home. So they need to repent and either get rid of their televisions or get out. "All liars shall have their place in the lake of fire." I don't care how good you can speak.

Originally Posted by UltraCon

Even though i'm on the "right' side of this issue I still want to voice my opinion. I hope that all the liberals that have TV in thier homes get out of the UPC. All those that have already lied on their AS need to LEAVE. In fact they shouldn't even be allowed to vote. If we had leadership with a backbone they would kick those liars out of the org.

Now I do have to say in all fairness that there are many who write in that they disagree with this and then sign it. So we can't be calling everyone a liar.

And also, the Manual does NOT Prohibit Video watching of wholesome entertainment. And since it does NOT define WHOLESOME, this is left to the minister's discretion.

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

I haven't met anyone under, say, 30 who actually understand/agrees with all the standards...

I'd be interested in meeting these "young men" who think pants are evil and advertising on TV is different than broadcasting 24/7 via the Internet, etc., etc., etc....

You must live in a hole or something.

Originally Posted by Salt&Light

I'll tell you what! I happen to know a large group of young men who will not let the truth die off, so you will die waiting for those who stand for holiness to die off. God is raising up men with integrity who will not stand for anything less, no matter what anyone thinks.

Large, I doubt it.

Something tells me that you would not know what holiness was if it bit you on your backside.

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Now I do have to say in all fairness that there are many who write in that they disagree with this and then sign it. So we can't be calling everyone a liar.

And also, the Manual does NOT Prohibit Video watching of wholesome entertainment. And since it does NOT define WHOLESOME, this is left to the minister's discretion.

Hello...if they ask you a question and you answer no, and you have one ummm that would be considered lying. If they don't agree then they need to switch organizations