A Christian Nation

[Nina]

Originally Posted by Eliseus

We can bring out the real facts of the case, if we desired, which would show that the nation was, largely, intended to be a free, Christian nation. And that the adoption of the federal Constitution was in essence a betrayal of those original intentions (as, in fact, many of the delegates to the Convention argued, including the venerable Patrick Henry).

Bro,

I've never heard this before. What do You mean?

Nina

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Chan

I don't see any evidence in the New Testament to show that there even is such a thing as a "Christian nation." Salvation is offered to individuals, not to geopolitical entities.

Was Israel a 'christian' nation?

Originally Posted by Nina

Bro,

I've never heard this before. What do You mean?

Nina

Hi, sister Nina. Please read this. It will perhaps explain my statement somewhat more fully.

God bless!

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Was Israel a 'christian' nation?

No. There is no such thing as a "Christian" nation.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Chan

No. There is no such thing as a "Christian" nation.

When you say "Christian" nation do you mean a Christian theocracy? Do you object to the use of a Christian worldview in forming a government?

Obviously I know that the OT Israel wasn't "Christian" but wasn't it a form of 'religious' , for lack of a better word, government?

Originally Posted by Chan

There is no such thing as a "Christian" nation.

Prove it.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

When you say "Christian" nation do you mean a Christian theocracy? Do you object to the use of a Christian worldview in forming a government?

I mean that there is no such thing as a "Christian" form of government (by "form" I mean like a republic, a monarchy, an oligarchy, a theocracy, a dictatorship, etc.) and that there is no basis in the New Testament for trying to apply the title "Christian" (meaning like Christ) to a geopolitical entity. Salvation is for individuals, not for governments. As the Church, we are a people called out from among the nations and are a nation unto ourselves.

Obviously I know that the OT Israel wasn't "Christian" but wasn't it a form of 'religious' , for lack of a better word, government?

Originally, it was intended to be a theocracy but that didn't last very long as Israel rebelled against God, went off and did its own thing and then later demanded a monarchy. When Jesus returns to Earth to reign for 1,000 years, that will be a true theocracy.

Originally Posted by Eliseus

Prove it.

Read the New Testament and notice that salvation is for individuals and not for geopolitical entities. Notice that Christians are citizens of the kingdom of Heaven and that we are in this world as ambassadors of that kingdom.

Originally Posted by Chan

Read the New Testament and notice that salvation is for individuals and not for geopolitical entities. Notice that Christians are citizens of the kingdom of Heaven and that we are in this world as ambassadors of that kingdom.

So then, you believe that Christians have true diplomatic immunity and are NOT citizens of the country in which they reside? Interesting.

Originally Posted by Eliseus

So then, you believe that Christians have true diplomatic immunity and are NOT citizens of the country in which they reside? Interesting.

Whether the nations in which we reside choose to grant diplomatic immunity is up to them but, yes, I do believe we are citizens of the kingdom of Heaven and not of earthly nations (now, if a particular nation chooses to grant the rights granted to citizens, that's up to that particular nation).