Canadian and American Healthcare ?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by TrueNorth

And how much do you or your employer have to pay a month for that wonderful insurance?

Some employers in Canada pay the employee portion of our premiums.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by TrueNorth

And how much do you or your employer have to pay a month for that wonderful insurance?

I suppose that you think it's the government's responsibility to provide health care?????

[Ron]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

I suppose that you think it's the government's responsibility to provide health care?????

Isn't the Government of the people, by the people, and for the people?

The Government is supposed to carry out the wishes of the people, for it's people.

Don't you think that everyone should have access to healthcare regardless of creed, colour, or background?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ron

Isn't the Government of the people, by the people, and for the people?

The Government is supposed to carry out the wishes of the people, for it's people.

Don't you think that everyone should have access to healthcare regardless of creed, colour, or background?

The role of the Federal government should be limited. In American it was originally that way. It is becoming socialistic and at times almost communistic.

The government is to carry out the 'wishes' and rules of the constitution....not the whims of the people.

Healthcare is not an entitlement. Not a 'right' and it is not the federal governments' job to provide it.

[ReformedDave]

If anyone is for a 'serious' article on this subject; here you are-

http://www.bmei.org/jbem/volume1/num..._insurance.pdf

[Ron]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

The role of the Federal government should be limited. In American it was originally that way. It is becoming socialistic and at times almost communistic.

The government is to carry out the 'wishes' and rules of the constitution....not the whims of the people.

Healthcare is not an entitlement. Not a 'right' and it is not the federal governments' job to provide it.

I seriously disagree with that on both a political, and Christian point of view.

Given that outlook, people in third world countries should suffer.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ron

I seriously disagree with that on both a political, and Christian point of view.

Given that outlook, people in third world countries should suffer.

You have a political view that is separate from your Christian view? Please state your scriptural basis for both.

It appears that you espouse 'big brother' and Scripture is clear on the limitations and responsibilities of civil government.

[TrueNorth]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

I suppose that you think it's the government's responsibility to provide health care?????

As a Canadian I pay for my healthcare through my taxes.
I also am of the opinion that the life of a poor person is of the same value as that of an upper middle class white person.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by TrueNorth

As a Canadian I pay for my healthcare through my taxes.
I also am of the opinion that the life of a poor person is of the same value as that of an upper middle class white person.

You certainly do pay! That's a case of government overstepping it's bounds.

Value of Life? No problem with that but I find it also immoral for government to steal from one to give to another.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

You have a political view that is separate from your Christian view? Please state your scriptural basis for both.

It appears that you espouse 'big brother' and Scripture is clear on the limitations and responsibilities of civil government.

Who said that? There are areas where I think that the Government is wrong.
Making sure that Healthcare is not for profit is something everyone should stand for.

Should someone go without healthcare because they can't afford it?

I know of people on this board who are suffering because they can not afford coverage.

Jam 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jam 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jam 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

Though he mentions food, he does say needful for the body.

Luk 10:30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
Luk 10:31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
Luk 10:32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
Luk 10:33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
Luk 10:34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
Luk 10:35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
Luk 10:36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbor unto him that fell among the thieves?
Luk 10:37 And he said, He that showed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

Obviously Jesus wasn't concerned about profit, but about "CARE" & "COMPASSION!"

Healthcare for everyone is a right!