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Old 10-15-2018, 02:11 PM
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Re: The Minority Report

1 of the 6 comments was by an AFF’er?
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Old 10-15-2018, 02:46 PM
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1 of the 6 comments was by an AFF’er?
No, the FB page where they added their video has hundreds of comments. Not a good look for the UPCI.

Lot of comments about racism and other issues people left over.
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Old 10-15-2018, 02:52 PM
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The church my father pastored was mostly white. That was not due to any racism or desire to be a white church.

There was a black couple who began attending with their children. He came to my father's office shortly after and said their former pastor from a black church nearby visited their home and told them my father and the church was racist and they didn't belong there. He told them blacks needed to worship with their own people.

Fortunately this family didn't agree and sent this pastor away.

We had heard rumors, but until then had been unable to know it was true or who was doing it.
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:33 PM
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No, the FB page where they added their video has hundreds of comments. Not a good look for the UPCI.

Lot of comments about racism and other issues people left over.

Exactly who I thought it was. Met him once. Nice guy. Children were very well mannered and respectful. I picked them up and went to Grace Church -I think. It was the night Jeremy Foster announced that he was leaving. He paid for my meal, and maybe fuel. At this point he wasn’t where he is today. I think he was at the point of no tormenting hell. I really hate the path that he and others took. It saddens me.

I watched the video. They left because DKB didn’t wave a BLM banner at General Conference. Got it.

It troubles me that 13% of the population wants to control everything.



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Old 10-15-2018, 03:42 PM
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The church my father pastored was mostly white. That was not due to any racism or desire to be a white church.

There was a black couple who began attending with their children. He came to my father's office shortly after and said their former pastor from a black church nearby visited their home and told them my father and the church was racist and they didn't belong there. He told them blacks needed to worship with their own people.

Fortunately this family didn't agree and sent this pastor away.

We had heard rumors, but until then had been unable to know it was true or who was doing it.
The woman who arranged for me to get a ride to the UPCI is black. I could never get her to visit. She would say that when she goes to church, it will be a black church.

The only blacks attending were kids that were bussed in for Sunday School.

The church was probably more latino than white. The pastor was white.
Something I noticed that would bother me... alot. When the youth were referring to people, it was always the black man or woman. Whites and latinos were just the man or woman.

I do recall a story told by the assistant pastor. He spoke of an interracial couple from some church- the pastor refused to marry them. Why? Because he would be limiting his ministry if he took a bride of another race. So they got married anyway. I’m sure it was a horror story but I don’t recall the details.
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Old 10-15-2018, 03:52 PM
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Are there racists who attend UPCI churches?
I am sure there are.
Are there racists who attend PAW churches?
I am sure there are.
Has racism been preached against by the UPCI?
Yes.
At almost every national event that I have attended, that I can remember.
Is there less racism in the UPCI than in the general popluation.
I would say far less.
But it still exists.
Just as adultery, fornication, envy, etc...
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:25 PM
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I do recall a story told by the assistant pastor. He spoke of an interracial couple from some church- the pastor refused to marry them. Why? Because he would be limiting his ministry if he took a bride of another race. So they got married anyway. I’m sure it was a horror story but I don’t recall the details.
One of the comments in the FB post is about interracial marriage and how a UPCI Pastor refused to officiate the wedding.

I knew a black Pastor (UPCI) in the midwest who refused to officiate marriages for interracial couples. He told my father the reason is because he believed the black community (at that time, back in the early 90s) wouldn't fully accept a bi-racial baby, nor would the white community accept a black spouse.

My father was never asked to officiate for an interracial marriage between black/white spouses. Based on his close friendship with the Pastor mentioned above, I'm not sure he would have. He did officiate for my brother who married a girl from Mexico. He also officiated for a couple in which the man was white and the girl was Korean.
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:34 PM
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If my pastor wouldn’t officiate my wedding he would cease to be my pastor.
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One of the comments in the FB post is about interracial marriage and how a UPCI Pastor refused to officiate the wedding.

I knew a black Pastor (UPCI) in the midwest who refused to officiate marriages for interracial couples. He told my father the reason is because he believed the black community (at that time, back in the early 90s) wouldn't fully accept a bi-racial baby, nor would the white community accept a black spouse.

My father was never asked to officiate for an interracial marriage between black/white spouses. Based on his close friendship with the Pastor mentioned above, I'm not sure he would have. He did officiate for my brother who married a girl from Mexico. He also officiated for a couple in which the man was white and the girl was Korean.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:56 PM
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Church leaves UPCI part 2

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So what do they want?
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