So, you want hard evidence for this, but you accept at face value the rumor that Trump was connected to the Russians?
We have Russian officials who have admitted to having met with his staff during the election. In addition, several Russians, including the one who handed over information to MI6 have been killed under mysterious circumstances since this started coming to light.
And... Trump's staff have been caught in lies regarding those meetings. Now, the entire intelligence community has come forward to warn that all evidence points to Russian cyber hacking. So.... the odds are that they are right.
But what evidence have you for the assertions in the original post?
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We have Russian officials who have admitted to having met with his staff during the election. In addition, several Russians, including the one who handed over information to MI6 have been killed under mysterious circumstances since this started coming to light.
And... Trump's staff have been caught in lies regarding those meetings. Now, the entire intelligence community has come forward to warn that all evidence points to Russian cyber hacking. So.... the odds are that they are right.
But what evidence have you for the assertions in the original post?
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I think the Russians hacked Aquila's membership on this forum!
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
We have Russian officials who have admitted to having met with his staff during the election. In addition, several Russians, including the one who handed over information to MI6 have been killed under mysterious circumstances since this started coming to light.
And... Trump's staff have been caught in lies regarding those meetings. Now, the entire intelligence community has come forward to warn that all evidence points to Russian cyber hacking. So.... the odds are that they are right.
But what evidence have you for the assertions in the original post?
Can you give me hard evidence of the lies?
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"What Wikileaks revealed today was that not only is the NSA doing it, but the CIA is doing it as well, and not only that, they’re possibly doing it better. And no, this isn’t restricted to overseas targets or terrorists, it’s being used on literally anyone and everyone they want to target. We also know that there is absolutely no statutory basis or justification for what the CIA is doing. None.
Next, consider what the CIA is doing. They are quite literally buying the vulnerabilities in U.S.-made software. They are paying money to keep the vulnerabilities in software and hardware in order to exploit those weaknesses. One more time so you get the point. They are creating and buying zero-day exploits for systems and of course refraining from telling the manufacturers of those devices. This is irresponsible and dangerous to the point of being criminal. It isn’t negligent, it’s intentionally criminal.
This lends itself to fraud, abuse, extortion, potential convictions in a courtroom with the use of illegally obtained material, material that violates the Fourth Amendment to the constitution. Here is something else. Since some of the malware is stolen from Russia, no one can ever, ever again trust the CIA when they say something like “this malware or hacking attack has a known Russian [or any other country for that matter] signature.” Never. "
More at the link.
I said it before when it happened on Obama's watch.
I'm saying it again now.
Putting all of this kind if information out for the general public is not helpful for our country, our national interests, and our intelligence professionals.
This is 👎 and I wish it simply stop happening.
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"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
well if you are asking if the information Wikileaks has released is truthful, from what I have seen, the media reports all are in the direction of "the CIA is looking for the leaker"
and not any kind of denial of the accuracy of the Wikileaks information.
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Well, Paul Manafort is a former Trump campaign chair, violated rules against unregistered foreign lobbyists for Russia.
Carter Page is former Turmp foreign policy adviser. He was investigated by the CIA for his Russian connections, he resigned.
Michael Flynn is former Trump National Security Adviser, resigned after being compromised by Russia.
Here’s a short list of those with Russian business interests:
Alex Shnaider
Rex Tillerson
Tevfik Arif
Carter Page
Felix Sater
Paul Manafort
Here’s a short list of those with Russian affiliated interests:
Paul Manafort
Roger Stone
Donald Trump, Jr.
These individuals had met with Sergey Kislyak (direct tie to Putin) during the election:
Jeff Sessions
Michael Flynn
Jared Kushner
Russian former KGB chief found dead on December 26th:
Oleg Erovinkin
Erovinkin reportedly helped the former MI6 spy, Christopher Steele, to compile his dossier on Donald Trump. It is widely believed that he was murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered up. This took place during a rash of Russian raids on computer firms and black bag arrests.
We have Russian officials who have admitted to having met with his staff during the election. In addition, several Russians, including the one who handed over information to MI6 have been killed under mysterious circumstances since this started coming to light.
And... Trump's staff have been caught in lies regarding those meetings. Now, the entire intelligence community has come forward to warn that all evidence points to Russian cyber hacking. So.... the odds are that they are right.
But what evidence have you for the assertions in the original post?
lets go down the list. Nancy Pelosi said he never ever met with no Russians...except a picture of her having dinner with the Russian ambassador showed and and she shut up.
Chuck Schumer waxed eloquent about how aweful it is that americans could meet with the Russians... then pic of him sharing donut with Vlad Putin came out...
on foxnews today Dennis Kucinich wrote an article about his being wire tapped by what he believes to be the CIA.
but if we want to really want to get into this.
your side is saying the Trumpsters were colluding with the Russians.
well the wikileaks show CIA can mimic Russian hackers.
wiretapping of Trump members (according to the NYT) produced NO EVIDENCE of such.
but at the same time, Russia invaded Crimea, Obama did nothing. Russia enters Syria, Obama did nothing. oh wait, yea he and Hillary gave the Russians a HUGE % of OUR URANIUM... then when Trump won, all the sudden the democrats start yelling that the Russians are the bad guys.
forgive my skepticism of the lefts veracity.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
Well, Paul Manafort is a former Trump campaign chair, violated rules against unregistered foreign lobbyists for Russia.
Carter Page is former Turmp foreign policy adviser. He was investigated by the CIA for his Russian connections, he resigned.
Michael Flynn is former Trump National Security Adviser, resigned after being compromised by Russia.
Here’s a short list of those with Russian business interests:
Alex Shnaider
Rex Tillerson
Tevfik Arif
Carter Page
Felix Sater
Paul Manafort
Here’s a short list of those with Russian affiliated interests:
Paul Manafort
Roger Stone
Donald Trump, Jr.
These individuals had met with Sergey Kislyak (direct tie to Putin) during the election:
Jeff Sessions
Michael Flynn
Jared Kushner
Russian former KGB chief found dead on December 26th:
Oleg Erovinkin
Erovinkin reportedly helped the former MI6 spy, Christopher Steele, to compile his dossier on Donald Trump. It is widely believed that he was murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered up. This took place during a rash of Russian raids on computer firms and black bag arrests.
NONE of those ties matter one bit. they aren't against the law and they aren't things that preclude someone from holding public office at all. Sergey Kislyak met with petty much every leader of both parties and there is proof of that. He was the Ambassador before he died.
Flynn wasn't compromised by the Russians. He was compromised by a felonious act by an AMERICAN. His conversations with the Russians were NOT illegal. they were expected. Obama actually sent a representative to Russia when he first became president, before he was sworn in. It was perfectly expected for him to do that. Flynn had some phone conversations.
PS all the people who are saying this is an issue, said it wasn't an issue when Hillary only met with people who donated to her charity when she was Sec State.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
lets go down the list. Nancy Pelosi said he never ever met with no Russians...except a picture of her having dinner with the Russian ambassador showed and and she shut up.
Chuck Schumer waxed eloquent about how aweful it is that americans could meet with the Russians... then pic of him sharing donut with Vlad Putin came out...
on foxnews today Dennis Kucinich wrote an article about his being wire tapped by what he believes to be the CIA.
but if we want to really want to get into this.
your side is saying the Trumpsters were colluding with the Russians.
well the wikileaks show CIA can mimic Russian hackers.
wiretapping of Trump members (according to the NYT) produced NO EVIDENCE of such.
but at the same time, Russia invaded Crimea, Obama did nothing. Russia enters Syria, Obama did nothing. oh wait, yea he and Hillary gave the Russians a HUGE % of OUR URANIUM... then when Trump won, all the sudden the democrats start yelling that the Russians are the bad guys.
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