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Old 06-13-2007, 04:18 PM
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Really, my church is UPC. My wife does not cut her hair. However, I can read and study the bible and I don't get uncut out of it.

Now if you take the stance that this is not cultural and that it applies to christians of today the only thing I get is that longer hair might possibly be more please and respectful towards the husband. Am I reading this wrong?
Delta, you got it on track. The fact is that the scripture in Corinthians is not talking about cutting hair. It is talking about submission to authority. I started out having the same question you have now. My wife does not cut, burn or color either. But I have told her that the truth is that the verses that the UPC controlers have taught that it is wrong but at a closer look the scripture is taken out of context.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:26 PM
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Delta, you got it on track. The fact is that the scripture in Corinthians is not talking about cutting hair. It is talking about submission to authority. I started out having the same question you have now. My wife does not cut, burn or color either. But I have told her that the truth is that the verses that the UPC controlers have taught that it is wrong but at a closer look the scripture is taken out of context.
Well, I have no problem following the standards of the UPC even if I know they are sometimes wrong because I want unity in our church. Also, I have no problem trusting those who are older and have more wisdom than me. But it amazes me that people I know who have been to Bible College can't even agree that this passage of scripture might at least be debatable.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:30 PM
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If it was in there, she wouldn't have a hard time believing it, would she?
He, Berk, deltaguitar is a he.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:32 PM
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Sorry delta... my bad.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:35 PM
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LoL. It wasn't in the form of a question. I asked you to share your journey from con to lib. You don't have to. Or you can PM me.. whatevah.. it's your call.
Oh, I didn't see that.

Easy. Been there, done that, got the T Shirt. Ain't going back.

Actually I was raised in a very conservative UPC church in Alaska with a great pastor.

I was an inner lib all along as at an early age I noticed the many inconsistencies in old time Pentecostal thinking when it came to so called "standards".

I will elaborate later on another thread.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:35 PM
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Really, my church is UPC. My wife does not cut her hair. However, I can read and study the bible and I don't get uncut out of it.

Now if you take the stance that this is not cultural and that it applies to christians of today the only thing I get is that longer hair might possibly be more please and respectful towards the husband. Am I reading this wrong?
And another starts the ride down the slippery slope. Welcome to da club, Bro.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:37 PM
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Oh, I didn't see that.

Easy. Been there, done that, got the T Shirt. Ain't going back.

Actually I was raised in a very conservative UPC church in Alaska with a great pastor.

I was an inner lib all along as at an early age I noticed the many inconsistencies in old time Pentecostal thinking when it came to so called "standards".

I will elaborate later on another thread.
I will be looking forward to reading that...

thanks
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:43 PM
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Well, I have no problem following the standards of the UPC even if I know they are sometimes wrong because I want unity in our church. Also, I have no problem trusting those who are older and have more wisdom than me. But it amazes me that people I know who have been to Bible College can't even agree that this passage of scripture might at least be debatable.
You can follow the dress code set forth, it is easier for a man to do so. But to say it is for the sake of unity that is different. There is sooooo many more thing essential to unity than the dress code. If you are doing it to obey the minister that is ok too. But unity has very little if anything to do with the dress code and cutting hair. The unity should be because of the Acts 2:38.

You will never find that there is verse that everyone agrees on. That is why are admonish to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Walk circumspectly before Him, not before man.
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Ok, so basically I am UPC and have been all of my life. And as much as I want to believe what I have been taught it is very hard for me to get that a woman's hair should be uncut based on 1 Corinthians 11.

Can anyone help me reconcile myself with the UPC doctrine?

It's not uncut, it's just LONG. Let's not change the Word of God.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:22 PM
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Really, my church is UPC. My wife does not cut her hair. However, I can read and study the bible and I don't get uncut out of it.

Now if you take the stance that this is not cultural and that it applies to christians of today the only thing I get is that longer hair might possibly be more please and respectful towards the husband. Am I reading this wrong?
That's what I get out of it too.
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