African-Am Men Charged in Pastor's Wife Murder

[n david]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

I hear you I really do. I used to think like that. But what do you expect poor and impoverished with little hope to do?

And the cycle continues. Cause what else do you expect of poor, hopeless people.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by n david

And the cycle continues. Cause what else do you expect of poor, hopeless people.

Its up to them to break the cycle. Thats the truth. But in some places sports, music, and drugs are the only way out. I have seen it first hand. Its ok David, I would expect people like to you realize this or sympathize with certain people's circumstances.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Thanks for posting this by the way. A black man killed a white person. All racism against blacks is a lie. All races are treated equal in this un racist country of ours.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

The people who run the entertainment industry, mainly zionist pigs, want things like rap music to represent black culture.

How do we know that?

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

You know, I am just so tired of hearing about the crime and murders committed by black people. I don't know how it can be addressed and it frustrates me to no end.

Every time there is some heinous story, I read about it and on the inside hope that it wasn't committed by a black person. On the most heinous acts, sometimes I'm relieved (if that is even possible) and other times, my fears are confirmed-- another black person has turn to crime.

On one hand you have many white conservatives who watch the news, see the stats, and they lump all blacks together in their discussions about race and crime in America-- usually without mentioning that all races have their criminals because the crimes committed by blacks (usually against other blacks) is what gets reported. When they address it among their circles, it is never in a way that is conducive to actual dialogue and workable solutions are never discussed.

On the other hand, you have white, black and all the other races that tend to have a liberal political view point. They watch the news, see the stats, and make excuses. This honestly baffles me! They readily acknowledge that all races have criminals, but they refuse to specifically address the crime patterns that are associated specifically with blacks and in some areas Hispanics. OF COURSE THE RACE OF THE PERPETRATORS doesn't play some kind of genetic factor where blacks are just pre-disposed to becoming criminals, but in America, there is a serious issue with crime in poor majority-minority communities-- and it spills into the not so poor, and more affluent and more diverse areas. Liberals don't address the racial realities associated with crime in America.

As a black man, I don't do anyone in favors in sugar-coating the crime problems that permeate poor black areas and the black people that commit these heinous acts.

As a black man, when white conservatives address these issues, they really do come off as racially prejudiced, even if I suspect they're not.

As a black man, liberals of all races just seem oblivious to these issues.

It is just so honestly frustrating!

Most blacks are not criminals. Most poor blacks would rather not have their communities be unsafe. Everyone seems so powerless to address these issues.

So we don't address it because it's not a problem, right? It's not a problem until your family member turns to a life of crime, makes a boneheaded criminal decision that shames your family, or God forbid, until your family member becomes a victim.


It doesn't have to be this way, but it is and it has been for a long time (at least since my childhood).

There are just so many wonderful, productive, positive blacks in America, not just saying that either-- but the criminal element brings me great shame, yes shame and grief.

Some liberals even point to stats that show that the crime rate has been going down in urban areas and in majority-minority areas for years now. Even if that is true, the decline needs to happen faster.

I wish I could end this post with a solution.

A really great and heartfelt post JD. Jesus is the solution ultimately. Jesus & personal responsibility. Every individual has to know that they have to choose for themselves who they will serve and what they will do. Blame, bitterness, hatred, racism, etc only obfuscates what each one of us has to do---taking responsibility for our own lives. The greatest responsibility is to choose Jesus! Then rolling up our sleeves and working hard to rise above life's challenges and doing something worthwhile with our lives.

Government won't lead one to Jesus---or solve the issue of personal responsibility. It's going to take family, friends, and the community to work together to influence our children to learn and to know what life is all about.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

It's the Jews.
(j/k)

LOL and the Freemasons and the black helicopters...

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

I hear you I really do. I used to think like that. But what do you expect poor and impoverished with little hope to do?

Plenty of testimonies of people who rose above poverty to take personal responsibility for their lives and made a positive contribution to society. If those who turn to drugs and crime would put as much effort into rising above their circumstances as they do breaking into homes, mugging people, carjacking, selling drugs, prostituion, etc they could do something productive with their lives. The same principles of planning and taking action to commit crimes could be applied to education and entrepreneurial activity. There are many, many examples within the AA community---a rising black middle class and upper middle class---businessmen and women, leaders in corporate America, education, government, medicine, in the courts, etc that no one has an excuse to blame poverty for destructive choices.

[deacon blues]

70% of AA children are born to single mothers. This stat alone is huge. Single moms are more likely to be poor and live in squalor. Children desperately need fathers and mothers---a family working together to raise up a child with values and self respect. Don't know how that fact changes, but somehow it has to.

[aegsm76]

The largest single indicator/marker of poverty is a single family household.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

I hear you I really do. I used to think like that. But what do you expect poor and impoverished with little hope to do?

Well I was among the poorest of the poor with zero hope of doing anything with my life.

I was surrounded by drugs, never did drugs.
I was surrounded by violence, never killed anyone.
I was surrounded by thieves, only stole food a few times.
(Yes I stole food, not proud of it, but when you are hungry, you kind of get desperate)

No poverty does not create criminals, plenty of poor people are not criminals.