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06-08-2015, 09:15 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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06-08-2015, 10:24 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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Please share with us Kemosabe, what does it mean?
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Hayah is he Hebrew verb "to be"
ehyeh is the first person singular of Hayah "I am"
Yahweh is the third person singular of Hayah "He is"
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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06-08-2015, 10:27 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-08-2015, 10:42 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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Hayah is he Hebrew verb "to be"
ehyeh is the first person singular of Hayah "I am"
Yahweh is the third person singular of Hayah "He is"
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06-08-2015, 11:23 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
I didn't post this because I thought the music or video was anything special. The issue at hand, and perhaps it wasn't clear, is the idea that it is believed that some Native Americans are either descendants from the Lost Tribes of Israel, or are a different people group having ancient knowledge of the true Creator and God.
I personally do not think such Native people are worshipping God in spirit and truth, nor, unless they've converted, should be considered believers in Christ Jesus.
My only concern is the possibility that sometime after the Flood, during the dispersion of people at Babel, that perhaps a group of humans migrated to the Americas while retaining knowledge of YHWH.
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06-08-2015, 11:36 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
I didn't post this because I thought the music or video was anything special. The issue at hand, and perhaps it wasn't clear, is the idea that it is believed that some Native Americans are either descendants from the Lost Tribes of Israel, or are a different people group having ancient knowledge of the true Creator and God.
I personally do not think such Native people are worshipping God in spirit and truth, nor, unless they've converted, should be considered believers in Christ Jesus.
My only concern is the possibility that sometime after the Flood, during the dispersion of people at Babel, that perhaps a group of humans migrated to the Americas while retaining knowledge of YHWH.
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Were you a Mormon?
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06-09-2015, 01:58 AM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
I didn't post this because I thought the music or video was anything special. The issue at hand, and perhaps it wasn't clear, is the idea that it is believed that some Native Americans are either descendants from the Lost Tribes of Israel, or are a different people group having ancient knowledge of the true Creator and God.
I personally do not think such Native people are worshipping God in spirit and truth, nor, unless they've converted, should be considered believers in Christ Jesus.
My only concern is the possibility that sometime after the Flood, during the dispersion of people at Babel, that perhaps a group of humans migrated to the Americas while retaining knowledge of YHWH.
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Mormonism
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-09-2015, 02:07 AM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
Not a Mormon, now or ever. And besides, Mormonism teaches Christ came to the Americas after the Resurrection, does it not? I'm not talking about that.
But is there no possibility that an ancient culture from thousands of years ago, could have somehow maintained at least a small portion of who the real God and Creator was?
How many ancient people groups that still exist today begin their creation account with a flood? In my neck of the woods, the Ojibwa tribe believes this is how the Great Spirit created, out of a flood.
I met a woman years ago who lived among, I think it was the Cherokee, and she insisted that the name of the "Great Spirit" that they worshipped was YHOH, but was pronounced Yahweh.
Listen to the song, at least the part sung in the Native American dialect by the woman. It's the Tetragrammaton being sung, and if the translation under the text is sure, then the God to whom they sing, in their language, is called the same things as the God of the Bible.
I'm not being overly dogmatic about this. In fact, I'd rather be able to debunk it all so I can drop it, hence why I'm pushing in the other direction.
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06-09-2015, 02:12 AM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Not a Mormon, now or ever. And besides, Mormonism teaches Christ came to the Americas after the Resurrection, does it not? I'm not talking about that.
But is there no possibility that an ancient culture from thousands of years ago, could have somehow maintained at least a small portion of who the real God and Creator was?
How many ancient people groups that still exist today begin their creation account with a flood? In my neck of the woods, the Ojibwa tribe believes this is how the Great Spirit created, out of a flood.
I met a woman years ago who lived among, I think it was the Cherokee, and she insisted that the name of the "Great Spirit" that they worshipped was YHOH, but was pronounced Yahweh.
Listen to the song, at least the part sung in the Native American dialect by the woman. It's the Tetragrammaton being sung, and if the translation under the text is sure, then the God to whom they sing, in their language, is called the same things as the God of the Bible.
I'm not being overly dogmatic about this. In fact, I'd rather be able to debunk it all so I can drop it, hence why I'm pushing in the other direction.
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Mormons teach the Indians came from a lost tribe of Israel
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-09-2015, 02:13 AM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
BTW Genetically, from what I remember, Indians are descendents of the Mongols or other Asians who crossed over a land bridge up north in Alaska
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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