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02-15-2015, 09:40 PM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Yes, he does have several "visions" over the past decade or two he's working off of, but from what I see so far he doesn't seem too wacky. Of course I have no experience with Branham's followers so...
His latest vision (2005) indicates that end time revival will bypass all organised groups including "Message folks". I wonder how other branham groups take that?
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I don't think he had a lot of interaction with most Branhamite sects.
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02-17-2015, 05:48 PM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Yes, he does have several "visions" over the past decade or two he's working off of, but from what I see so far he doesn't seem too wacky. Of course I have no experience with Branham's followers so...
His latest vision (2005) indicates that end time revival will bypass all organised groups including "Message folks". I wonder how other branham groups take that?
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A Branhamite that "doesn't seem too wacky"? Wow! I didn't know that was possible. I thought by definition they were wacky.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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02-17-2015, 06:25 PM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by CC1
A Branhamite that "doesn't seem too wacky"? Wow! I didn't know that was possible. I thought by definition they were wacky.
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ALL Branhamites are wacky. 
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02-17-2015, 06:40 PM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
ALL Branhamites are wacky. |
Have you ever been to one of their services? Just wondering.
Years ago, my husband was on an out of town trip and stopped for the night in a small town and thought he would visit a Pentecostal church. Upon entering the "Pentecostal" church he noticed that there were pictures lining the walls of what appeared to be the same man in different places. He was curious about this, and presumed to ask an usher who the person was. The usher was very secretive and said "just wait and see, he'll be speaking in a bit". My husband thought that was odd, but decided he would wait. The service was typically Pentecost in nature. However things took an odd turn when it came time for the preaching. No man took to the podium, instead a voice began to speak in a 1960s style from the speakers. My husband was not familiar with who Brantam was at the time, and assumed then that perhaps the pastor was out of town, and a previous message was being played while he was gone. So after the service, he asked the same usher who the pastor was, and he said William Brantam, and proceeded to hand my husband a bunch of tapes and literature "from the prophet". When my husband called me after the service to tell me about his experience, I laughed and filled him in on WB, the Message, and his followers. Although I had never been to a Message service, I knew who they were. It was quite an experience for him! It is incredible that people can believe such deception.
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02-17-2015, 07:00 PM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Have you ever been to one of their services? Just wondering.
Years ago, my husband was on an out of town trip and stopped for the night in a small town and thought he would visit a Pentecostal church. Upon entering the "Pentecostal" church he noticed that there were pictures lining the walls of what appeared to be the same man in different places. He was curious about this, and presumed to ask an usher who the person was. The usher was very secretive and said "just wait and see, he'll be speaking in a bit". My husband thought that was odd, but decided he would wait. The service was typically Pentecost in nature. However things took an odd turn when it came time for the preaching. No man took to the podium, instead a voice began to speak in a 1960s style from the speakers. My husband was not familiar with who Brantam was at the time, and assumed then that perhaps the pastor was out of town, and a previous message was being played while he was gone. So after the service, he asked the same usher who the pastor was, and he said William Brantam, and proceeded to hand my husband a bunch of tapes and literature "from the prophet". When my husband called me after the service to tell me about his experience, I laughed and filled him in on WB, the Message, and his followers. Although I had never been to a Message service, I knew who they were. It was quite an experience for him! It is incredible that people can believe such deception.
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I personally know the Branham family and have many friends involved in this heresy.
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02-18-2015, 01:27 AM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
I personally know the Branham family and have many friends involved in this heresy.
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Didn't his wife and daughter get the short of the stick when he died? Apparently he was worth about 3 million back then but the daughter had a rough time (sons did great tho)?
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02-18-2015, 07:53 AM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Didn't his wife and daughter get the short of the stick when he died? Apparently he was worth about 3 million back then but the daughter had a rough time (sons did great tho)?
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Both daughters.
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02-19-2015, 08:04 AM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
ALL Branhamites are wacky. |
I have seen men visit CLC over the years with saints following them around to see their "signs and wonders ministries".
I wonder if the Apostles allowed that to go on in their day?
I betcha thats a reason faith healers must die....so they dont or cant steal the glory from Jesus.
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02-19-2015, 03:24 PM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by CC1
A Branhamite that "doesn't seem too wacky"? Wow! I didn't know that was possible. I thought by definition they were wacky.
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That right there is funny!
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02-20-2015, 04:27 PM
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Re: Pastor Steven Shelley?
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
That right there is funny! |
I aim to please!  (plus that was like shooting fish in a barrel)
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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