But, what would YOU say?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Nope! Wrong again.

Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

The answer to the question wasn't 'I must expound the word of the Lord to you to be saved', rather the answer was simple....."believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved". Period. End of story.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The answer to the question wasn't 'I must expound the word of the Lord to you to be saved', rather the answer was simple....."believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved". Period. End of story.

Awwww come onnnnnn. The jailer guy was a gentile, never been to even a Baptist church, if they didn't expound, preach or teach, how did he even know to be baptized? BTW, what would you have told the questioning folks at Pentecost?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The question was asked...."Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

Was Paul and Silas' subsequent answer adequate?

Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Yes.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yes.

Yes as in no other teaching is necessary?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

After reading responses on different threads, I have come to the conclusion, that if you could transport some AFF posters back to Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost and they were given the opportunity to answer the question directed to Peter and the rest of the apostles..."Men and brethren, what shall we do?".

They would NEVER answer what Peter answered.

What a man believes, he speaks. One's words are the fruit of what one believes.

If two men believe the same, their words will be in agreement.

Those whose words are not in agreement with the apostles, do not believe the same as the apostles.

Thus, they have a different belief system, ie a different religion, than the apostles.

Some people's religion leads them to say 'baptism doesn't save anybody'. Peter's religion led him to say 'baptism doth also now save us'.

Some people's religion leads them to say 'baptism doesn't wash away sins'. Brother Ananias' religion led him to say 'Arise, and be baptised, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.'

Some people's religion leads them to say 'he that believes and is not baptised shall be saved', but Jesus' religion led him to say 'he that believes and is baptised shall be saved'.

Lots of different religions floating around.

Only one is True.

[votivesoul]

Acts 1:1-3,

1. The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
2. Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
3. To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God...

If I had been one of the Apostles, I would have, if I had any fear of God and reverence for His Son, spoke whatever the Lord Jesus told me to speak within that 40 day period before He ascended to Heaven.

After which, whatever commandments Jesus through the Holy Spirit gave to me, again, if I had any fear of God and reverence toward His Son, I would have spoken likewise.

Seems to me Simon Peter did exactly that, both in Acts 2 and 10.

[renee819]

Originally Posted by Esaias

What a man believes, he speaks. One's words are the fruit of what one believes.

If two men believe the same, their words will be in agreement.

Those whose words are not in agreement with the apostles, do not believe the same as the apostles.

Thus, they have a different belief system, ie a different religion, than the apostles.

Some people's religion leads them to say 'baptism doesn't save anybody'. Peter's religion led him to say 'baptism doth also now save us'.

Some people's religion leads them to say 'baptism doesn't wash away sins'. Brother Ananias' religion led him to say 'Arise, and be baptised, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.'

Some people's religion leads them to say 'he that believes and is not baptised shall be saved', but Jesus' religion led him to say 'he that believes and is baptised shall be saved'.

Lots of different religions floating around.

Only one is True.

AMEN!!!!!

Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house

.

WHAT IS THE WORD OF THE LORD?

The same, as what Phillip preached.

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

There was only ONE GOSPEL. Therefore they all preached the same, as we find Paul doing in Acts 19.

It is one package.

REPENT
BE BAPTIZED IN JESUS NAME
RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST----WITH THE EVIDENCE. -----

I don't believe the Apostles would have left the people dangling---without the evidence.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The answer to the question wasn't 'I must expound the word of the Lord to you to be saved', rather the answer was simple....."believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved". Period. End of story.

Context!

29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. Acts 16:29-33

What would have been so pressing upon Paul that he would have baptized these people the SAME HOUR in which he witnessed to them?

The obvious. He knew that all who seek salvation from Yeshua must be baptized into his name.

[seekerman]

I've always found it interesting that when folks start with a doctrine, they almost never start with the words in red for some reason.

What did Jesus say? That should be the foundation and everything else built upon His words. Then Jesus said....

Joh 3:14 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
Joh 3:15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

What wrong with following what Jesus said? If I can say what Jesus said, I think I'm ok. But that's just me.

[renee819]

Seekerman wrote,

I've always found it interesting that when folks start with a doctrine, they almost never start with the words in red for some reason.

What did Jesus say? That should be the foundation and everything else built upon His words. Then Jesus said....

Joh 3:14 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
Joh 3:15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

What wrong with following what Jesus said? If I can say what Jesus said, I think I'm ok. But that's just me.

You can not say, those things that Jesus said in those verses and be saved, and here is why,...

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Salvation was not complete until Pentecost.

Look at 2 things there. One, There are a few verses in the NT, that people take out of context, that tells us to BELIEVE. You can not be saved if you don't believe, and they forget what else it says,

“But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.

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“spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive:” That is very plain, And how are they to believe? Any way that they feel like? Any way that some Denomination says is the truth? How about, “believeth on me, as the scripture hath said,” and that word “said” is rooted and grounded on “ COMMAND” As the scriptures has commanded.

Now where did Jesus give the Church, COMMANDS?

Acts 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given COMMANDENTS unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

So Acts 2:38 is not just a suggestion. It is a COMMAND. To any that wants to be saved.
Another command, was for water baptism in Jesus name, in another place.

Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
:48 And he COMMANDED them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

People that teach “just believe” are ignorant of the context of the scriptures they quote, or, they quote those scriptures for their own advantage.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY, WHAT THE APOSTLES TAUGHT. if you want to be saved.