I hate church!! - Page 2

seekerman · #11 10-22-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1

I know this very well. But as you know if you have been around Pentecost very long that you are judged based on attendance to service and your action/reaction during service!

Yep, I did it for about 40 years in pentecost. It's wonderful to be free though, living for God is much much more intimate and enjoyable.

Not knocking those who do enjoy 'church' though. It's just not for some.

allstate1 · #12 10-22-2013, 07:59 PM

Im not knocking those that need to attend but here in the good ol southwest Mississippi people of all denominations look at you strange when you make a statement about hating church.

Praxeas · #13 10-22-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1

Your comment wraps up my feelings very well! Why does one have to wait for church service to be uplifted by a God that lives within us? My belief is most have fallen in love with an emotional high that comes with a (move of God)!

One doesn't have to wait. Did you wait? Why hate church because you wrongly believed you had to wait for church service to be uplifted by God?

BTW...just a reminder of "Church"

1Th 5:11 Therefore comfort one another, and edify one another, even as you also do.

Eph 4:11 And truly He gave some to be apostles, and some to be prophets, and some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,
Eph 4:12 for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.
Eph 4:13 And this until we all come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full-grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

1Co 14:3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation.
1Co 14:4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church.
1Co 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.
1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you speaking in tongues, how will I benefit you unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or teaching?

1Co 14:12 So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church.
1Co 14:13 Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray for the power to interpret.
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
1Co 14:16 Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say "Amen" to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?
1Co 14:17 For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up.
1Co 14:18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.
1Co 14:19 Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

the fact is, gathering together and edifying the body is biblical

Michael The Disciple · #14 10-22-2013, 08:03 PM

Church was never meant to be looked at as "going to Church". It is meant to be a continuing fellowship of people who believe in Jesus and his teachings.

Of course it is Biblical to meet at least weekly. I have been associated with several groups over the years that to some degree seemed like a New Covenant Church. It is an awesome thing.

KeptByTheWord · #15 10-22-2013, 08:03 PM

I can totally relate to your statement, although like RW... when the presence of the Lord is truly in the place, it is a beautiful thing. However, much of the time, the presence of man far surpasses anything the Lord wants to do. Perhaps that is why you "hate church" but still love the Lord, and seek after His presence?

Praxeas · #16 10-22-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1

Im not knocking those that need to attend but here in the good ol southwest Mississippi people of all denominations look at you strange when you make a statement about hating church.

maybe the problem is you see church attendance as a NEED and if for some reason you don't feel you have any needs or they are not being met by that church, that is the reason why you hate church

allstate1 · #17 10-22-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

One doesn't have to wait. Did you wait? Why hate church because you wrongly believed you had to wait for church service to be uplifted by God?

BTW...just a reminder of "Church"

1Th 5:11 Therefore comfort one another, and edify one another, even as you also do.

Eph 4:11 And truly He gave some to be apostles, and some to be prophets, and some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,
Eph 4:12 for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.
Eph 4:13 And this until we all come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full-grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

1Co 14:3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation.
1Co 14:4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church.
1Co 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.
1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you speaking in tongues, how will I benefit you unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or teaching?

1Co 14:12 So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church.
1Co 14:13 Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray for the power to interpret.
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
1Co 14:16 Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say "Amen" to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?
1Co 14:17 For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up.
1Co 14:18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.
1Co 14:19 Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

the fact is, gathering together and edifying the body is biblical

Every Sunday morning and night, Wednesday night and ever revival and special service?? Hearing the same six songs over and over ? Then after about an hour of that listen to someone speak for another hour? I don't think this kinda church is Biblical!

Praxeas · #18 10-22-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1

Every Sunday morning and night, Wednesday night and ever revival and special service?? Hearing the same six songs over and over ? Then after about an hour of that listen to someone speak for another hour? I don't think this kinda church is Biblical!

I don't understand the question. The fact is, it's biblical to gather together and EDIFY and BE Edified.