Attack in Texas....

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Timmy

As in 14 injured, 0 killed.

From the article:

The attack began before noon on a sunny spring day, interrupting the careless chatter of Diante Cotton and his friends, who were sitting in the cafeteria when a girl clutching her neck walked in, yelling.

"He's stabbing people, he's stabbing people," Cotton said the girl shouted, his first indication that something was amiss on the normally tranquil campus.

Walking outside, Cotton and his friends saw another half-dozen people with injuries to their faces and necks. Some were being loaded into ambulances. The most critically injured were evacuated in medical helicopters.
"I turned around, and there was just blood — just blood dripping down the stairs, all over the floor, all over everyone's towels, on their necks, just a lot of blood," Melody Vinton told KHOU-TV.

The attacker ran past Vinton, she said, as she was leaving her chemistry class. He was stabbing people, she said, one after another, always aiming for the neck or face.


If no one dies it was not because he did not try to murder them.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Pliny

From the article:

The attack began before noon on a sunny spring day, interrupting the careless chatter of Diante Cotton and his friends, who were sitting in the cafeteria when a girl clutching her neck walked in, yelling.

"He's stabbing people, he's stabbing people," Cotton said the girl shouted, his first indication that something was amiss on the normally tranquil campus.

Walking outside, Cotton and his friends saw another half-dozen people with injuries to their faces and necks. Some were being loaded into ambulances. The most critically injured were evacuated in medical helicopters.
"I turned around, and there was just blood — just blood dripping down the stairs, all over the floor, all over everyone's towels, on their necks, just a lot of blood," Melody Vinton told KHOU-TV.

The attacker ran past Vinton, she said, as she was leaving her chemistry class. He was stabbing people, she said, one after another, always aiming for the neck or face.


If no one dies it was not because he did not try to murder them.

Did I say otherwise?

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Did I say otherwise?

Didn't say anything other than to clarify.

[Timmy]

My point? There is a humongous difference in the lethality of a typical knife attack than of a gun attack. To imply gun control advocates of hypocrisy here, if they don't also advocate knife control, is ludicrous. There may be other ways that they are hypocritical, but this is not one.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Didn't say anything other than to clarify.

Didn't say you did.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Timmy

As in 14 injured, 0 killed.

True but what shocks most Americans about the gun killings is the horror. Imaging the horror of someone slashing with a knife, the blood everywhere. Nobody hears a gun shot and has no idea where this guy is at the moment

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Timmy

As in 14 injured, 0 killed.

He wasn't going for dead. He was going for maiming. Which is a worse mindset? Both...

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Timmy

My point? There is a humongous difference in the lethality of a typical knife attack than of a gun attack. To imply gun control advocates of hypocrisy here, if they don't also advocate knife control, is ludicrous. There may be other ways that they are hypocritical, but this is not one.

Bologna. The "gun control" crowd are very hypocritical. Knives do kill people as do bats. In fact here are some facts for you:

Accidental deaths 2010
Accidental discharges of firearms 606
Accidental drowning deaths were 3,782
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire, and flames was 2,782

Accidental discharges of firearms were less than 9%. Since "gun control" activists want to save even one child - and it is worth it (that is how they framed the debate) - then swimming pools and other bodies of water along with any place where flames are present need to be strictly controlled and monitored by the government. That means heater, stoves, BBQ's etc after all it is for the children!


Breakdown of Homicide.
Assault (homicide) 16,259
Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms 11,078
Assault (homicide) by other and unspecified means and their sequelae 5,181

There were over 5,00 homicidal assaults using other means than firearms.
What the data did not do in the report is break the homicides down by the actions of felons or the assaults while being in the process of a felony - such as drug deals gone bad.

Drug-induced deaths 40,393
Alcohol-induced deaths 25,692

There were over 40,000 drug induced deaths and over 25,000 alcohol related deaths. Deaths by these means far exceed the deaths by firearms which is also a Constitutionally protected right. Drugs and alcohol are not. The politicians, if they cared, would lock down the border to keep drugs from killing so many young people - after all its for the children right?
BTW the data can be found here:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf


It is hypocritical to focus on one thing - gun control. There are other things that kill FAR more people annually.
Nothing happens by accident in politics.
And politicians never allow an emotional event to pass without them trying to advance their agenda.
In this case there are many that do not want anyone to have a gun other than the Police and the Army. The same ones who advocate this are the same ones that surround themselves with armed guards. Case in point Bloomberg, Feinstein (or is that Frankenstein!) and Schumer and others like Obummer...

[RandyWayne]

On a side note, there is no rule that requires you use no more force for self defense than your attacker will. (Actually, now that I think of it there are a few states that DO have such laws. . . .)

If someone comes at me with a small pocket knife and I have a gun, I'm not going to put down my gun and pick up a knife -no bigger than what my attacker has, just so as to be "fair" about it. No, I am going to shoot him multiple times. If a BIGGER gun was available for instant use I would put down the one in my hand currently and use it instead!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Timmy

My point? There is a humongous difference in the lethality of a typical knife attack than of a gun attack. To imply gun control advocates of hypocrisy here, if they don't also advocate knife control, is ludicrous. There may be other ways that they are hypocritical, but this is not one.

i dont imply hypocrisy so much as utter foolishness by attacking the wrong problem.

gun control does nothing to stop crazy people from acting out to hurt others.

We did an assault weapons ban. FBI said it did nothing.

We KNOW it doesnt work. so why the strum und drang?