apostolic,pentecostal

[Sam]

Originally Posted by bluegrassdad

Are there any apostolic churches that teach post trib. Meaning that all christains are going through the great tribulation.

Apostolic/Pentecostal ministers/teachers are all over the map on stuff like this.

Some teach that the world ended in AD 70, the resurrection took place and we are now in the kingdom

Some teach a coming tribulation followed by a kingdom of God on earth.
Those that teach a coming tribulation are divided up as follows:
1. Some teach that a rapture may occur at any moment and will be before the tribulation
2. Some teach the rapture will occur in the middle of the tribulation
3. Some teach the rapture will occur at the end of the tribulation when Jesus descends from Heaven to rule on earth

[Sam]

I call myself:
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship

What I mean by that is:
1. Apostolic: I believe in Jesus Christ through the words of His first century Apostles whose writings are also known as the New Testament

2. Pentecostal: I have received the same Holy Ghost Baptism that about 1/4 of the early church (120 out of 500 members ref 1 Cor. 15:6) received on the Day of Pentecost or Feast of Shavu'ot as recorded in Acts chapter 2

3. Charismatic: I believe the gifts/charisms of the Spirit listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10; Romans 12:4-8; and Ephesians 4:11

4. Non-denominational: means that I am not a member of any of the generally recognized denominational churches.

5. Interdenominational: means that my fellowship is not based on any organizations or denominations but that I recognize and fellowship anyone who is in the Body of Christ.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

I took this from my favorite moderators signature:

Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:

There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

I can agree with this.

[Sam]

Usually we use terms like Apostolic, Pentecostal, Charismatic, Holiness interchangeably.

Each of us has his/her own private definition of "Apostolic" so there are probably as many definitions of Apostolic as there are people here.

[bluegrassdad]

Stiill didn't get a clear answer...what beliefs are different between them?

[Sam]

Apostolic and Pentecostal and Holiness and Charismatic are different terms used interchangeably. There really is no difference.

Some "Apostolics" believe in various shades of the doctrine of the trinity, some in various shades of oneness, some in various shades of arianism and binatarianism.
Some "Pentecostals" believe in various shades of the trinity doctrine, some in various oneness theories, some in arianism and some in binatarianism.

Roman Catholics call themselves Apostolic and so do some of the various Orthodox Churches.
"Apostolic" was a term used by many who received the Holy Ghost Baptism in the late 1800's and early 1900's. These folks were (and are trinitarians) who believe that a person is saved by faith in Jesus Christ and may or may not be water baptized and may or not be baptized in the Spirit. They also referred to themselves as Pentecostal, Holiness, and Latter Rain.
A few years later some (a few) of these Apostolics or Pentecostals began to practice baptism in the name of Jesus and some times used titles such as "Lord" and/or "Christ" in baptism but did not believe that baptism that way had anything to do with salvation.
Later some (a few) of these Apostolics or Pentecostals began to teach that water baptism in Jesus' name and the Holy Ghost Baptism were necessary for salvation.Some of these folks became part of an organization formed in 1945 called the United Pentecostal Church. Now many in leadership positions of the United Pentecostal Church are teaching a revised history of their sect (or cult according to some) and telling folks they have always believed in and practiced water baptism in Jesus' name and have taught that the HGB (Holy Ghost Baptism) is part of a "plan of salvation."

[renee819]

Originally Posted by bluegrassdad

Stiill didn't get a clear answer...what beliefs are different between them?

BGdad, I've been in Pentecost most of my life. 6 yrs old to now 81. And I still don't know the difference. And there shouldn't be any difference.

There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

That is supposed to be Apostolic. It is also true of the Pentecostal Churches to which I have belonged.

[Michael The Disciple]

Apostolic, Pentecostal, Charismatic they are all just sweeping generalizations. You have to get down with each person or local Church and discuss with them what they believe.

The Local Churches are greatly lacking in foundation truth. Most cannot recieve the post trib rapture truth because there is precious little teaching about dying to the self life.

[MawMaw]

Originally Posted by bluegrassdad

Hi there ya'll...I'm new to the site.so be patient with me..what s the difference between penticostal and apostolic or are they the same?.

Since you are asking about the differences, I assume you
call yourself neither? Do you consider yourself to be in some
other group?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by bluegrassdad

Hi there ya'll...I'm new to the site.so be patient with me..what s the difference between penticostal and apostolic or are they the same?.

What "label(s)" do you use to describe yourself, your church, your belief system, etc.?





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