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08-28-2012, 05:09 AM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
what is your review of the film db?
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08-28-2012, 05:39 AM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
Well the movie isnt conspiratorial at all. Nothing about birth certificates or Islam or that he is a member of the Trilateral Commission or the Illuminati. It's a logical argument that growing up without his father seemed to be a very defining issue in BO's life.
Although his father had little to no role in his life, his mother continuously reinforced the idea that his father was an epic figure, a man of greatness, a man of high intellect and vision. BO embraced that throughout his life. His father came once to visit him in Hawaii, and that is the only memory BO has of him.
When his mother remarried an Indonesian, because he was more favorable to the oil industry from North America in Indonesia, working for them, and because he liked his North American bosses, BO's mother downplayed the man's role in his life and continued to build up BO Sr. In reality the image she created was one of her own liberal values and anti-American sentiment. Once in an argument with her Indonesian husband about the American oil people, he stated that they were her people and she shouted, "Those are not my people!"
She divorced the man and moved back to HI to remove BO from his pro-capitalist, pro-American influence. All of his significant male mentors from then forward would be radical leftists: some man who was a card carrying member of the Communist Party of America, a professor at Harvard from Brazil who was so radical that even Brazil kicked him out of their country never to return, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright.
When he was at Harvard he received word from his relatives that his father had been killed in a car wreck. He went to Kenya and visited his father's and grandfather's graves. The movie uses the audio quotes of BO's own voice from his book "Dreams From My Father" about that incident.
He states that the weight of continuing his father's struggle would now be his. What struggle was that? BO Sr. was very much involved in the movement to have the British removed from Kenya. They were very anti colonial and had a worldview that the Europeans and Americans became wealthy off of the natural resources of the Third World and were to be opposed.
They hated Israel for the same reason believing that Israel was an extension of imperialism and colonialism. The case is made that BO is trying to level the playing field in the nation and in the world, by diminishing Americas military, economic strength and influence in the world. He has embraced his fathers anti-colonial cause and is implementing it. And 2013-2016 will be worse because he will have no restraint. He said as much to Medvedev of Russia in an open mike moment.
Its a logical, not conspiratorial argument.
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08-28-2012, 07:41 AM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
"The assertion that Obama's presidency is an expression of his father's political beliefs, which D'Souza first made in 2010 in his book "The Roots of Obama's Rage," is almost entirely subjective and a logical stretch at best."
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-ant...-politics.html
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08-28-2012, 09:55 AM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
"The assertion that Obama's presidency is an expression of his father's political beliefs, which D'Souza first made in 2010 in his book "The Roots of Obama's Rage," is almost entirely subjective and a logical stretch at best."
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-ant...-politics.html
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Maybe so. However Obama DOES have a very different worldview than what I hold and what the majority of Americans hold. It is fair to examine why. Could it be his experience? Or is he simply no different from most liberal elitists? I lean towards him just being wrapped up in the liberal ideology most of the democratic party is wrapped up in. Humans and our population, rich people, and christians are bad, global warming is our fault, and muslims, athiests, free sex, and violence are good, that's how you build a moral society.
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08-28-2012, 11:09 AM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
"The assertion that Obama's presidency is an expression of his father's political beliefs, which D'Souza first made in 2010 in his book "The Roots of Obama's Rage," is almost entirely subjective and a logical stretch at best."
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-ant...-politics.html
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The movie is based on that book. D'Souza is the narrator and producer.
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08-28-2012, 11:15 AM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
If anyone would like to see the responses of many who have seen the 2016 movie go to www.facebook.com/obamasamerica. It is amazing how people, republicans and "some" democrats, feel after watching it. It's also amazing how many of the left refuse to watch it. Must be something they don't want to find out. Who knows?
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09-23-2012, 07:45 PM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
You can view the movie on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mscvd...layer_embedded
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09-23-2012, 09:03 PM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
thanks po will watch now
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09-23-2012, 09:33 PM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
watched 30 minutes, not interested.
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09-23-2012, 10:15 PM
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Re: Anybody Going to See "Obama 2016" Tomorrow Nig
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watched 30 minutes, not interested.
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Just finished the movie.
It was interesting that he would say that in the beginning we didn't know Obama, now we do. Everything in the video was known to us before the 2008 election and it was easily accessible information. Most of it was discussed on this very forum.
I still agree with Alan Keyes:
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"I look at Romney and I see, there is one salient difference, though. Romney has already implemented bad policies, destructive policies in the context of Massachusetts that Obama has been unable to get implemented because he is met with such strong resistance.
Now let me see, if you put Romney in and he's wearing a Republican label and a Conservative cache, that's going to silence a certain element of the opposition to those things and he will be able to get them through.
Why is it that people think that the guy who is failing to get them through is the greater evil and the guy committed to the same policies who may be able to get them through is the lesser evil."
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I said this exact same things months ago. Through the threat of Obama, they are pushing things on us that we would otherwise find intolerant. They give us Romney.
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