Walking in the Spirit means living a life wherein you daily allow Jesus to be your very "life". Allow your oneness with Him to dominate your every thought and action. Walking in the Spirit is the spiritual quest to be one with Christ through the Holy Ghost. Are you speaking like Him? ...Acting like Him? ...Thinking like Him? Is He becoming your very identity? Not to the point of loosing your own mind... but is the mind of Christ Himself coming through who you are???
All the religious disciplines, practices, and actions on earth do not equate to walking in the Spirit. None of those things that one can do can make certain that one is walking in the Spirit. They are actually fruit of walking in the Spirit. The one who is walking in the Spirit will by nature pray, fast, read, and meditate on God's Word. Seek HIM first. HIM. There's nothing one can DO until they have been apprehended and consumed by HIM.
Walking in the Spirit means living a life wherein you daily allow Jesus to be your very "life". Allow your oneness with Him to dominate your every thought and action. Walking in the Spirit is the spiritual quest to be one with Christ through the Holy Ghost. Are you speaking like Him? ...Acting like Him? ...Thinking like Him? Is He becoming your very identity? Not to the point of loosing your own mind... but is the mind of Christ Himself coming through who you are???
All the religious disciplines, practices, and actions on earth do not equate to walking in the Spirit. None of those things that one can do can make certain that one is walking in the Spirit. They are actually fruit of walking in the Spirit. The one who is walking in the Spirit will by nature pray, fast, read, and meditate on God's Word. Seek HIM first. HIM. There's nothing one can DO until they have been apprehended and consumed by HIM.
Amen bro!
Things such as fasting and praying will be done by those who are walking in the Spirit. They are not done so that you can be certain you are "in the Spirit"
Even people who are not born again can fast, pray and meditate on God's word, YET, they CAN NEVER WALK IN THE SPIRIT if they don't even have the Spirit of God in the first place.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
On the other hand, a person indwelt by the Holy Spirit does NOT necessarily mean the person is WALKING in the Spirit.
Gal 5:25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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Wouldn't the opposite of walking the the flesh be, like, you know, dead?
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Originally Posted by Timmy
You mean, if a sinner stops walking in the flesh, he's dead?
In a way, you are right. To walk in the Spirit means we are dead unto our desires and our wills. IOW, not my will but your will Father. So even though, we are physically alive, we are actually DEAD in Christ.
Consider this:
Rom 6
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Col 2:20Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
Gal 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
So according to the scriptures, when Christ died, I died with Christ. When he rose from the dead, I rose with him. Since I died with Christ my old man has died. Henceforth, I should walk like the new man in Christ that I am.
I think the best summary for walking in the Spirit is Gal 2:20
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
We were crucified with Christ. That is a statement of fact. Although, we are still alive physically, it is Christ who now lives in us. My day to day living is based on Faith in Jesus Christ.
So, yes, Timmy, believers are DEAD...lol
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
But are you all dead in Christ, or only mostly dead in Christ?
Gal 6
14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
I am crucified unto the world. I am a new creature.
So, yeah, totally dead in Christ!
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
Gal 6
14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
I am crucified unto the world. I am a new creature.
So, yeah, totally dead in Christ!
So you have never sinned since you "died"! That's so cool!
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So you have never sinned since you "died"! That's so cool!
Rom 6
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
I have sinned even after I got saved. However, because I have died in Christ, I do not continue in my sin. I repented, God forgave me, and that sin is NOT counted against me. This is essentially JUSTIFICATION. God IMPUTES righteousness into me even though my actions do not deserve it.
Before I "died" I would continue in sin. After, I died, I no longer wanna sin. My desire is changed.
Notice, Paul, does NOT say, because we are dead in Christ, we cannot sin. In fact, he states quite the opposite. Rom 6:12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
If I let sin reign in my mortal body, I would obey its lust. But if I know that I am dead in Christ, then I should not allow sin to reign in me.
This is what Paul is saying Fact: I died in Christ. Faith: I believe that when Christ died, I died Experience: Reckon myself to be dead in Christ and live according to the Spirit and not to the flesh anymore.
Consider this:
Col 3
1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
Paul is saying because I am dead in Christ, mortify my fleshly desires. So, if I don't mortify my fleshly desires (hence, allowing sin to reign in my mortal body), I will obey its lust. So yes, its possible to still sin as a believer, but we are not to live in sin by obeying its lust.
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
All believers are required to die to all sin. This is not easy, and that is why Paul said that he 'kept under his body", and 'I die daily'.
What scripture says we are to die to sin?
Rom 6
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
It says we are DEAD unto Sin. We have to recognize the meaning of what Paul is saying. Paul is telling us a fact. We are DEAD unto Sin. (It's a past act).
Now, we are to walk in the Spirit, by which, we will NOT fulfill the lust of our flesh.
Rom 6:12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
"I die daily" is not talking about dying to sin.
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
Rom 6
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
I have sinned even after I got saved. However, because I have died in Christ, I do not continue in my sin. I repented, God forgave me, and that sin is NOT counted against me. This is essentially JUSTIFICATION. God IMPUTES righteousness into me even though my actions do not deserve it.
Before I "died" I would continue in sin. After, I died, I no longer wanna sin. My desire is changed.
Notice, Paul, does NOT say, because we are dead in Christ, we cannot sin. In fact, he states quite the opposite. Rom 6:12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
If I let sin reign in my mortal body, I would obey its lust. But if I know that I am dead in Christ, then I should not allow sin to reign in me.
This is what Paul is saying Fact: I died in Christ. Faith: I believe that when Christ died, I died Experience: Reckon myself to be dead in Christ and live according to the Spirit and not to the flesh anymore.
Consider this:
Col 3
1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
Paul is saying because I am dead in Christ, mortify my fleshly desires. So, if I don't mortify my fleshly desires (hence, allowing sin to reign in my mortal body), I will obey its lust. So yes, its possible to still sin as a believer, but we are not to live in sin by obeying its lust.
It's funny how you people actually think you are making sense!
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