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08-19-2011, 10:22 AM
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Re: Foot Washing
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08-19-2011, 01:16 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
Foot washing was not a ritualized practice in the bible where everyone is speaking in tongues and praising God while giving someone a foot massage.
It was an act of humility. In those days people wore sandels. They walked around on dusty roads and when they entered into a house, if the host was honerable, he would offer them a bowl of water to wash their feet.
Jesus was giving an eastern example of mutual servitude and humility. Unless you run around in sandles all day long on camel infested dirt roads, this meaning might be lost on you. You aren't really washing someone's feet unless they are dirty. You are just getting them wet and drying them off while giving them a foot massage
The intent was we are to serve one another and be humble. The modern foot washing only symbolizes that. It's not a salvific ritual any more than repeating hail Mary's and Our Fathers is.
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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08-19-2011, 01:28 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
If Jesus himself said to Peter that he would have no part with him if he did not allow him to wash his feet and then tells them that he did this as an example for us to do to others, then how can people think this is optional? I would say that foot washing is like baptism to them that have already been baptized. I'm just curious to know if some of you think you can be right with God and ignore this portion of scripture?
John 13
6Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet?
7Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.
8Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.
9Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.
10Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.
11For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.
12So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?
13Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
14If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
15For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
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Would you have a problem washing these feet with your bare hands?
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08-19-2011, 01:47 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
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Yes I'll wash your feet
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08-19-2011, 01:51 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-19-2011, 01:55 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Foot washing was not a ritualized practice in the bible where everyone is speaking in tongues and praising God while giving someone a foot massage.
It was an act of humility. In those days people wore sandels. They walked around on dusty roads and when they entered into a house, if the host was honerable, he would offer them a bowl of water to wash their feet.
Jesus was giving an eastern example of mutual servitude and humility. Unless you run around in sandles all day long on camel infested dirt roads, this meaning might be lost on you. You aren't really washing someone's feet unless they are dirty. You are just getting them wet and drying them off while giving them a foot massage
The intent was we are to serve one another and be humble. The modern foot washing only symbolizes that. It's not a salvific ritual any more than repeating hail Mary's and Our Fathers is.
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Okay I understand the servant hood for the one washing the feet but it's different for the ones that are getting their feet washed... I'm sorry to hear that it's just a ritual to people but to me after being baptized/cleansed from sin and walking in this dirty world, then I need foot washing services
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08-19-2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
did they continue to wash feet in the early church? maybe...don't recall it mentioned. You can't take everything so literal, as a commandment or you get caught up in commandments and law. There has to be an understanding of the principle of servitude and humility Jesus was teaching in these scriptures.
I never did "get" foot washing until I washed homeless women's feet who didn't have the means for pedicures or too elderly to care for their feet. It was a need, and I sobbed the whole time. Humbling, oh yeah. I will never forget it.
I think more than an act mentioned in the bible.. try finding someone who is in need to serve in some capacity. Serve others with a pure heart.
Remember, everything is hung up on only two commandments...Love God and Love others as yourself.
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08-19-2011, 03:03 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
Okay I understand the servant hood for the one washing the feet but it's different for the ones that are getting their feet washed... I'm sorry to hear that it's just a ritual to people but to me after being baptized/cleansed from sin and walking in this dirty world, then I need foot washing services
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What?? the power of the blood that cleansed you is not able to keep you? raise your sights a little higher out of this physical realm.
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08-19-2011, 03:07 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
Okay I understand the servant hood for the one washing the feet but it's different for the ones that are getting their feet washed... I'm sorry to hear that it's just a ritual to people but to me after being baptized/cleansed from sin and walking in this dirty world, then I need foot washing services
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Go for it bro.
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08-19-2011, 03:10 PM
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Re: Foot Washing
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Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder
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many of the homeless people do have feet that look like that... at first I couldn't believe it until I realized those disabled on the streets can't really reach their feet to care for them. I tried to cut nails that day, but a few I had to refer to a doctor or clinic,(I didn't have the proper equipment) I explained that medicare/medicaid would pay for them to be properly cared for if they would visit a DR.
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