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04-25-2011, 08:27 PM
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German, I am not sure I understand but then it has been a long day. For that matter a long year!
Do I understand correctly that you are currently attending a UPC church but are not happy with it and want to change? Or that you have already made a change to another church? If so what kind of church is it and what made you leave your UPC one? You mentioned not enough scheduled prayer and worship not boistrous enough for you but frankly those sound like lame excuses.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-25-2011, 08:37 PM
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Sorry to hear you're going through that, Jermyn. Leaving can be really tough.
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04-25-2011, 08:42 PM
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Sorry to hear you're going through that, Jermyn. Leaving can be really tough.
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Hopefully will not abandon church completely as you and your husband have. 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-25-2011, 10:57 PM
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Turn your bullet proof vest around backwards ILG , Quick !!
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04-25-2011, 11:33 PM
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04-25-2011, 11:50 PM
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JD,
I know that this was not a spur of the moment decision, but that you have been contemplative for a thousand years. Leaving your church family for another isn't easy. Sometimes you have to spread your wings and fly. I do support your reason to leave. I have been there. It's a leap of faith, and you feel alone at a time when you really need to be in good company. The Lord is with you, He has never abandoned you. He is watching over this situation. You are going to learn alot about yourself through this, and you are going to be amazed at the hand of God. I need you to do yourself a favor. When doubts begin to settle in, I need you to remind yourself of His promises to you. I am not sure if I told you about something that I was going through last yr. The only time I felt safety and assurance is when I was in the tangible presence of God. Any other time I was full of doubt and fear. Three times through this, men of God who I was barely aquainted with spoke words to me that were from the Lord and I was assured that God was in it. I know it's vague, but I do not wish to get into detail here. I love you, JD. Give me a call sometime on Saturday. M-F our schedules are in conflict.
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04-26-2011, 09:42 AM
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what stance exactly is it you disagree with ?
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I see the expectation (or demand even) for someone to speak in togues before they are to be considered saved as the foundation for a bad relationship with Jesus Christ and not biblical.
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04-26-2011, 09:43 AM
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Where are you going?
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I have been attending the Assembly of God church in my area.
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04-26-2011, 09:44 AM
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I wish you well on your journey Jermyn. It's not an easy road. Keep your eyes and heart on God.  |
Thank you. That is what I am striving for.
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04-26-2011, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
At some point in each of our lives we must make decisions based on what we know, instead of what we believe.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
JD, may you find all the paths that HE has set before you.
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So amazingly true!
Thank you.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
JD, may you find all the paths that HE has set before you.[/QUOTE]
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