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Old 01-08-2011, 08:51 PM
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Me importa a mi porque a veces me pregunto a donde fueron a la escuela para escribir tan mal.
tan mal? It's not that bad, is it?
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It's a simple grammar mistake. Sorry for the error.
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It's a simple grammar mistake. Sorry for the error.
Just responding to H-town-man - I'm good
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I attended the Apostolic Bible Institute in St. Paul, MN for just one year. That was September 1956 till June 1957. I came to Cincinnati for the summer to work here and to sit under the teaching of F.E. Curts who was the pastor of the only UPC church in Cincinnati. He was also the District Superintendent of the Ohio District. I got here in June, don't remember the exact date and started a job the next day. A month later I got laid off and was off work for about a month, getting a new job in August. I did not feel like I should quit that job a couple of weeks later and go back to Bible School so I decided to wait a year. Well, the following year I got married and I'm still here in the Cincinnati area.

I learned some good stuff while I was in Bible School but heard some teaching that I just could not swallow.

At the time I went to ABI, I also considered going to MBI (Moody Bible Institute) in Chicago,IL but decided to go to an Apostolic school. At that time I had heard of PBI (Pentecostal Bible Institute) in Tupelo, MS; Apostolic College in Tulsa, OK; WABC (Western Apostolic Bible College) in Stockton, CA; IBC (International Bible College) in San Antonio, TX; and Conquerors Bible College in Portland, OR. I chose ABI because it was the closest and it was where my pastor, Lester Thompson, had gone.

I didn't know much about the other schools but we at ABI prided ourselves on having the most and best Bible/doctrinal teaching. PBI was looked down on because they were "loose" in doctrine i.e. did not stand firm on the "plan of salvation" and Apostolic College was just considered as placing too much emphasis on holiness standards and not enough emphasis on Bible. It was rumored that the women there could not wear wedding rings and nobody could drink any kind of soft drink except Dr. Pepper (I guess because it was not carbonated and was made up of prune juice or something like that).

Like I said, there were some things we were taught at ABI that I just could not accept. I also did not like the dictatorial control of Bro. Norris and the idea that any disagreement with what he taught was wrong/error/false doctrine. Bro. Norris taught that a person had to complete all three steps of Acts 2:38 to be born again or to be in the Church or to make it in the Rapture but he did teach that if a child had at least one parent in the church, the child would be raptured. He taught that the "holy" people were those who had obeyed Acts 2:38 since 30 AD or were the "prophets" in the Old Testament who had been Spirit filled. He taught that everyone else would be judged by how well they lived up to whatever truth they had and would receive eternal life at the White Throne Judgment based on that. Some people call that the Light Doctrine. Bro. Norris' teaching over the years has influenced many, many UPC and other OP ministers and lots of people in official positions of the UPC have been influenced/taught by him.
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I attended the Apostolic Bible Institute in St. Paul, MN for just one year. That was September 1956 till June 1957. I came to Cincinnati for the summer to work here and to sit under the teaching of F.E. Curts who was the pastor of the only UPC church in Cincinnati. He was also the District Superintendent of the Ohio District. I got here in June, don't remember the exact date and started a job the next day. A month later I got laid off and was off work for about a month, getting a new job in August. I did not feel like I should quit that job a couple of weeks later and go back to Bible School so I decided to wait a year. Well, the following year I got married and I'm still here in the Cincinnati area.

I learned some good stuff while I was in Bible School but heard some teaching that I just could not swallow.

At the time I went to ABI, I also considered going to MBI (Moody Bible Institute) in Chicago,IL but decided to go to an Apostolic school. At that time I had heard of PBI (Pentecostal Bible Institute) in Tupelo, MS; Apostolic College in Tulsa, OK; WABC (Western Apostolic Bible College) in Stockton, CA; IBC (International Bible College) in San Antonio, TX; and Conquerors Bible College in Portland, OR. I chose ABI because it was the closest and it was where my pastor, Lester Thompson, had gone.

I didn't know much about the other schools but we at ABI prided ourselves on having the most and best Bible/doctrinal teaching. PBI was looked down on because they were "loose" in doctrine i.e. did not stand firm on the "plan of salvation" and Apostolic College was just considered as placing too much emphasis on holiness standards and not enough emphasis on Bible. It was rumored that the women there could not wear wedding rings and nobody could drink any kind of soft drink except Dr. Pepper (I guess because it was not carbonated and was made up of prune juice or something like that).

Like I said, there were some things we were taught at ABI that I just could not accept. I also did not like the dictatorial control of Bro. Norris and the idea that any disagreement with what he taught was wrong/error/false doctrine. Bro. Norris taught that a person had to complete all three steps of Acts 2:38 to be born again or to be in the Church or to make it in the Rapture but he did teach that if a child had at least one parent in the church, the child would be raptured. He taught that the "holy" people were those who had obeyed Acts 2:38 since 30 AD or were the "prophets" in the Old Testament who had been Spirit filled. He taught that everyone else would be judged by how well they lived up to whatever truth they had and would receive eternal life at the White Throne Judgment based on that. Some people call that the Light Doctrine. Bro. Norris' teaching over the years has influenced many, many UPC and other OP ministers and lots of people in official positions of the UPC have been influenced/taught by him.

Nice story, but what does this have to do with topic???
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Nice story, but what does this have to do with topic???
It's about UPC Bible colleges enduring.
Some of those I mentioned that were around in the nineteen fifties are no longer here and there are some that have come into being since then.
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It's about UPC Bible colleges enduring.
Some of those I mentioned that were around in the nineteen fifties are no longer here and there are some that have come into being since then.
oh ok....gotcha! I am a recent alumni of Gateway College of Evangelism in St. Louis. When I was there, it was very apparent that the college was struggling financially. They couldn't afford to keep the heat on 24/7 during freezing temps. You just had to deal with it. There were many other issues that yelled 'we're struggling', but I don't feel like going into detail. I don't see how an institution of this nature can survive in the future.

Besides that....enrollment is down as well. When I was there enrollment was below 100.
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Nice story, but what does this have to do with topic???
It also shows the perceived attitude of some in one Bible school toward other Bible Schools.
And it shows how one person's attitude has changed toward the school he attended.
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Will they survive the recession...??? lol. No really, will there be UPC bible colleges in the last of last days when the world is in utter financial ciaos?

I don't think so...

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