Would You Visit This Man Who... - Page 2

Jermyn Davidson · #11 10-18-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Talk about yourself.

I do that too much already.

Sam · #12 10-18-2010, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I don't want to just let him rot there.

We haven't talked since it happened and I am thinking that I maybe should go visit him.

I'm just at a loss for words as to what we could possibly talk about.

It sounds like you consider him a friend so it's not like you would be making a "cold call" to some stranger who is incarcerated. I'd suggest you go visit him. Talk to him very frankly. Tell him that God can and will forgive him if he asks. Recommend Alcoholics Anonymous. AA "works if you work it." Lives have been changed by God working through AA even though some times He remains anonymous. As far as divorce, most of us don't really believe in divorce but some times it's the best solution. His wife has to decide on that.

Aquila · #13 10-19-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

A Christian man, taking medications and very highly intoxicated, attempted to kill his wife and one of his sons.

He initially pulled the trigger on his wife and the gun didn't fire.

His son tried to wrestle the gun out of his hands and failed. The father pointed the gun and shot his son, grazing the side of his son's head.

Now this guy who did all of these terrible things, did them in front of his 7 year old daughter.

You have been a friend of this family for awhile. You're familiar with the struggles that lead up to these sad events.

Now that your friend is in jail, do you go and visit him?

If yes, what do you say? What do you talk about?

If no, well, is that the way to treat a friend?

I'm troubled by the whole situation-- especially since I warned them both on separate occasions, more than once, that they should divorce for their own safety. I really don't know how I am supposed to relate to them any more, or if I even should.

He's a soul. I'd visit him and see if he's repentant. Stress how he needs God and how this was just the first in a series of life destroying events if he doesn't surrender his heart to the Gospel. I'd also point out how many times GOD interviened to prevent the situation from being worse. And I'd admonish them both to separate and consider divorce. (I'd allow them to remarry each other if they desired and had taken time to become healthy.)

jfrog · #14 10-19-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I do that too much already.

Oh and one other thing. If they give you an hour visitation (some places only give you 15 mins) then make sure you have an excuse to leave early incase you need to.

ThePastorsCoach · #15 10-19-2010, 11:58 AM

Please go visit him and encourage him. He is a child of God and you are his brother and you should encourage him. Do not deal with in anyway the situation. Just love him. Read or quote encouraging scriptures for him and then put your hand up on the glass when it is time to go and pray for him that God will help him and give him wisdom in what to do in this situation. Just go and bless him. Tell him that you love him and are there for him. Ask him if there is anything you can do for him. In most jails they do not get enough food so you could spend $20 - $30 for a care package it would be a blessing and a tangible way to show the Love of God to him. Also, make sure he has clean/new t-shirts, underclothes, a sweat shirt, thick white socks and shower shoes.
I am a chaplain at several jails and the inmates always need things. You might make sure he has a good Study Bible and send him some lessons to do.
If you need to you can email me with any questions at Life770@aol.com.
Bless you!
OH, And put $20 or more $$ on his books so he can make phone calls - If you can.

Adam · #16 10-19-2010, 12:00 PM

What would Jesus do? Serious question, actually. You are his friend. Go visit him.

Margies3 · #17 10-19-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Please go visit him and encourage him. He is a child of God and you are his brother and you should encourage him. Do not deal with in anyway the situation. Just love him. Read or quote encouraging scriptures for him and then put your hand up on the glass when it is time to go and pray for him that God will help him and give him wisdom in what to do in this situation. Just go and bless him. Tell him that you love him and are there for him. Ask him if there is anything you can do for him. In most jails they do not get enough food so you could spend $20 - $30 for a care package it would be a blessing and a tangible way to show the Love of God to him. Also, make sure he has clean/new t-shirts, underclothes, a sweat shirt, thick white socks and shower shoes.
I am a chaplain at several jails and the inmates always need things. You might make sure he has a good Study Bible and send him some lessons to do.
If you need to you can email me with any questions at Life770@aol.com.
Bless you!
OH, And put $20 or more $$ on his books so he can make phone calls - If you can.

AB, that is GREAT advice. Thank you.

whoami · #18 10-19-2010, 02:17 PM

Is anyone visiting and taking care packages to his family? My concern would be for them first, personally. I don't know if I'd visit the man or not, I can't stand violence against children, whatever the reason. I'm glad to see there are people here who are more compassionate than me though.

Jermyn Davidson · #19 10-19-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by whoami

Is anyone visiting and taking care packages to his family? My concern would be for them first, personally. I don't know if I'd visit the man or not, I can't stand violence against children, whatever the reason. I'm glad to see there are people here who are more compassionate than me though.

I have been in touch with the wife and children. However, the wife is keeping a little distance from me because in part, I told her this would happen and the fact that I was more the husband's friend than her friend.

She didn't really want to even take my new cell #-- I had to insist.

It's just so sad and awkward.

Jermyn Davidson · #20 06-15-2012, 03:55 PM

My friend called me at work-- TODAY, about 15 minutes ago!

I haven't seen or heard from him in almost 2 years!

He is STILL in jail-- no bond hearing, no trial date!!!

I don't understand how this can happen.

That guarantee of a speedy trial? Fuggetaboutit!

He called me today to bluntly ask me for help. His blood relatives are in NY, he doesn't know where his wife, 2nd son, and youngest daughter are. His oldest son visited him once about 4 months ago.

He asked if I would help him and I told him I would. I am going to try to visit him this weekend-- definitely within the next 7 days.

Please pray for my friend and pray for me so that I can be a real friend to him.

His name is Rafael.