Has AFF been FEMINIZED?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Ouch!! I think he's great. I didn't read him in his hey-day but I've read his return and in my little bitty humble opinion, I think people have run because they have no answer to the truth.

Here's something I saw on Facebook today..."Any truth that cannot be tested by criticism (constructive or destructive) is no truth at all."

So when you say, "Destroyed the premise of the forum", are you accusing DA of destroying the forum?

Yes. He made the atmosphere intolerable for most conservatives. I am an exUPCer who "went Charismatic" in the minds of UPC folks many years ago but found that being a gentleman and using some common sense I could have some great discussions with the most conservative of Old Time Oneness Pentecostals who without a doubt personally think I am splitting hell wide open. That concept fell by the wayside with the arrival of DA and his little posse who thought being confrontational and condescending to conservatives was great sport.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by CC1

Yes. He made the atmosphere intolerable for most conservatives. I am an exUPCer who "went Charismatic" in the minds of UPC folks many years ago but found that being a gentleman and using some common sense I could have some great discussions with the most conservative of Old Time Oneness Pentecostals who without a doubt personally think I am splitting hell wide open. That concept fell by the wayside with the arrival of DA and his little posse who thought being confrontational and condescending to conservatives was great sport.

Well, I suppose I would see it a different way. Since I've watched and posted, I've seen some pretty ugly conservative bullies who found out they couldn't push people like DA around. On top of that, he provided accurate content and is exegetically sound.

I know this....from personal discussions with him and others, I'm aware of a GREAT impact he and others have had on many lives, people who have seen the light of grace. Without this forum, many would still be struggling with the works program, living in fear, and struggling to somehow make God happy.

I'm not asking this in a confrontational way, but how many of your civil and great discussions with people who thought and continue to think you're going to split hell wide open, made a difference in any lives?

[CC1]

Mr. Smith, this discussion is pointless. DA is da man. He got his way with the forum so enough said. Congrats to him and lucky for me I don't have much time anymore anyway to be here. Glad you are so inspired by him and think his work here is doing such wonderful things. That doesn't change any of the things I stated about what he did to the forum though.

[Sweet Pea]

Originally Posted by CC1

You may say "cleaned house" I would say destroyed the very premise of the forum. If I wanted to spend a lot of time with a bunch of left wing condescending charismatics there are plenty of other sites to do that. AFF was unique in that it was a place for people from all Pentecostal perspectives to civilly discuss issues and fellowship. DA and his posse are the reason I don't spend very much time here anymore. Nice guy in person but I wish he had never found this forum.

Thank you CCI for posting what many of us have thought!

[Michael]

I think some one needs to wipe that brown stuff off they're nose....

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Ouch!! I think he's great. I didn't read him in his hey-day but I've read his return and in my little bitty humble opinion, I think people have run because they have no answer to the truth.

Here's something I saw on Facebook today..."Any truth that cannot be tested by criticism (constructive or destructive) is no truth at all."

So when you say, "Destroyed the premise of the forum", are you accusing DA of destroying the forum?

Originally Posted by CC1

Yes. He made the atmosphere intolerable for most conservatives. I am an exUPCer who "went Charismatic" in the minds of UPC folks many years ago but found that being a gentleman and using some common sense I could have some great discussions with the most conservative of Old Time Oneness Pentecostals who without a doubt personally think I am splitting hell wide open. That concept fell by the wayside with the arrival of DA and his little posse who thought being confrontational and condescending to conservatives was great sport.

Mr. Smith, I concur with CC1's remarks...

Dan has a problem with civility and is a pot stirrer. Forums such as this have had them before and they eventually go the way of the dodo.

It is a shame that this is his forte because he is bright and has much to share of a positive nature. His posts on historical facts have been most informative.

Unfortunately, we rarely see it.

It is his in your face rhetoric that has caused me to be as CC1 and not spend a lot of time posting.

I don't believe people have run because they could not answer him, Mr. Smith. I believe they grew tired of his rants.

And there you have it...

[DAII]

Always find it amusing when CC1 pontificates and scapegoats on this subject having full knowledge that when the exodus happened I was on full permanent ban and posting for months on Synadelfos.

An exodus that was the direct result of a brave poster who refused to allow a bully owner to accuse his own ministerial peers of sanctioning
homosexuality and the loss of revenue and street cred by some itinerant evangelists and pastors for sitting at the table with heatherns.

What CC1 masochistically pines for are his floggings from "old friends" he posted with on Faithchild and New Faithchild. We are witnessing classic symptoms of the Patti Hearst Stockholm syndrome - the target of bullies wanting his daily regimen of weggies, charlie horses, purple nurples and noogies so as to validate and affirm his withering links to his Apostolic heritage.

Notwithstanding, when given the chance to lead this forum after the exodus, even he couldn't use his influence to restore his delusions of nostalgia.

Honestly, to date I am yet to meet a more relentless one on one personal attacker to grace this forum. Just ask Bill Price and the family who survived the loss of Tim M.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by CC1

Mr. Smith, this discussion is pointless. DA is da man. He got his way with the forum so enough said. Congrats to him and lucky for me I don't have much time anymore anyway to be here. Glad you are so inspired by him and think his work here is doing such wonderful things. That doesn't change any of the things I stated about what he did to the forum though.

Well, I guess that's my cue to shut up.

"Fruit" is the ultimate measuring stick of our lives and DA has borne much fruit. The "Measuring Stick" is not what the establishment thinks of us. The most dynamic people in history have also been the most hated. So I'm hoping that DA takes your rebukes as a great compliment.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Barb

Mr. Smith, I concur with CC1's remarks...

Dan has a problem with civility and is a pot stirrer. Forums such as this have had them before and they eventually go the way of the dodo.

It is a shame that this is his forte because he is bright and has much to share of a positive nature. His posts on historical facts have been most informative.

Unfortunately, we rarely see it.

It is his in your face rhetoric that has caused me to be as CC1 and not spend a lot of time posting.

I don't believe people have run because they could not answer him, Mr. Smith. I believe they grew tired of his rants.

And there you have it...

His "Style" hasn't been the problem. It's the content of what he says. THAT has been the problem.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by DAII

Always find it amusing when CC1 pontificates and scapegoats on this subject having full knowledge that when the exodus happened I was on full permanent ban and posting for months on Synadelfos.

An exodus that was the direct result of a brave poster who refused to allow a bully owner to accuse his own ministerial peers of sanctioning
homosexuality and the loss of revenue and street cred by some itinerant evangelists and pastors for sitting at the table with heatherns.

What CC1 masochistically pines for are his floggings from "old friends" he posted with on Faithchild and New Faithchild. We are witnessing classic symptoms of the Patti Hearst Stockholm syndrome - the target of bullies wanting his daily regimen of weggies, charlie horses, purple nurples and noogies so as to validate and affirm his withering links to his Apostolic heritage.

Notwithstanding, when given the chance to lead this forum after the exodus, even he couldn't use his influence to restore his delusions of nostalgia.

Honestly, to date I am yet to meet a more relentless one on one personal attacker to grace this forum. Just ask Bill Price and the family who survived the loss of Tim M.

Wow. So true.