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Old 06-04-2010, 12:34 PM
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The vice is more prominent perhaps, but we are fooling ourselves if we don't think there were just as many sexual addictions and lust 1,000 years ago.

Of course by "imagination," this would lead to a vocal injunction to prohibit television.

And so, dear brothers and sisters,[a] I plead with you to give your bodies to God because of all he has done for you. Let them be a living and holy sacrifice—the kind he will find acceptable. This is truly the way to worship him.[b] 2 Don’t copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will learn to know God’s will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect.

I don't see imagination in this text, but the minister's point is still a solid one. In an age of visual stimulation at an all-time high, the imagination is perhaps in over-drive. But I'm not sure. In Islam, where the women are completely covered, if they don't lust after skin-tight jeans, it will be after a flash of an ankle. That's all it takes to get the imagination going. Some could argue there's very little imagination these days lol Lust is all about having something you can't have, overcome with an urge to get what you want. It's not merrily skin-based.
This is part of our problem today. We always think our troubles are worse today than yesterday. Sexual perversion has always infected this Planet.

A brief study about past civilizations proves this, beyond a doubt. The Romans were known for their radical orgies and twisted sexual appetites that would make our skin crawl.

Paul had to tackle this problem, as the Church of Corinth was full of incest. Imagine the days where Polygamy was the norm. Look at David, Samson, and everyone else in the Old Testament who fell into the clutches of immorality.

Yes, Internet Porn is a huge problem, but this is just another way to send people into the gutter sexually, but never forget, the gutter has ALWAYS been there.

This subject is a matter of conscience. I studied this problem for 10 years and wrote a book about it. Sexual addiction is just that, an addiction. We can fall headlong into this if we don't LISTEN to our conscience. Pornography is dark and evil. This is not rocket science. It's fake, and empty, and the conscience God gave us will send off the alarm if we'll listen.

Anyone who reads this and has had an experience with Pornography knows what I'm talking about. Looking at Porn leaves you feeling dirty, empty, and unfulfilled. Just like drugs. The initial "Rush" may seem pleasant but the end result is a complete let down.

The more we face this problem with the simplicity and reality of what it is, the more we can conquer this World which is nothing more than a fantasy that has always put people in the prison of shame.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:45 PM
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This is part of our problem today. We always think our troubles are worse today than yesterday. Sexual perversion has always infected this Planet.

A brief study about past civilizations proves this, beyond a doubt. The Romans were known for their radical orgies and twisted sexual appetites that would make our skin crawl.

Paul had to tackle this problem, as the Church of Corinth was full of incest. Imagine the days where Polygamy was the norm. Look at David, Samson, and everyone else in the Old Testament who fell into the clutches of immorality.

Yes, Internet Porn is a huge problem, but this is just another way to send people into the gutter sexually, but never forget, the gutter has ALWAYS been there.

This subject is a matter of conscience. I studied this problem for 10 years and wrote a book about it. Sexual addiction is just that, an addiction. We can fall headlong into this if we don't LISTEN to our conscience. Pornography is dark and evil. This is not rocket science. It's fake, and empty, and the conscience God gave us will send off the alarm if we'll listen.

Anyone who reads this and has had an experience with Pornography knows what I'm talking about. Looking at Porn leaves you feeling dirty, empty, and unfulfilled. Just like drugs. The initial "Rush" may seem pleasant but the end result is a complete let down.

The more we face this problem with the simplicity and reality of what it is, the more we can conquer this World which is nothing more than a fantasy that has always put people in the prison of shame.
Excellent post.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:52 PM
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This is part of our problem today. We always think our troubles are worse today than yesterday. Sexual perversion has always infected this Planet.

A brief study about past civilizations proves this, beyond a doubt. The Romans were known for their radical orgies and twisted sexual appetites that would make our skin crawl.

Paul had to tackle this problem, as the Church of Corinth was full of incest. Imagine the days where Polygamy was the norm. Look at David, Samson, and everyone else in the Old Testament who fell into the clutches of immorality.

Yes, Internet Porn is a huge problem, but this is just another way to send people into the gutter sexually, but never forget, the gutter has ALWAYS been there.

This subject is a matter of conscience. I studied this problem for 10 years and wrote a book about it. Sexual addiction is just that, an addiction. We can fall headlong into this if we don't LISTEN to our conscience. Pornography is dark and evil. This is not rocket science. It's fake, and empty, and the conscience God gave us will send off the alarm if we'll listen.

Anyone who reads this and has had an experience with Pornography knows what I'm talking about. Looking at Porn leaves you feeling dirty, empty, and unfulfilled. Just like drugs. The initial "Rush" may seem pleasant but the end result is a complete let down.

The more we face this problem with the simplicity and reality of what it is, the more we can conquer this World which is nothing more than a fantasy that has always put people in the prison of shame.
I know Jeffrey already said it, but I must concur...Excellent post!
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:11 PM
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It isn't anything new. The desire has always been there in the human imagination, when the daguerreotype (first camera) was invented for every photographer taking pictures of dead bodies on civil war battle fields there were a couple of more taking plates of another variety.

And those guys filming the old silent movies were filming alot more than the Keystone Cops.

Even all the way back to Roman times... there are a whole bunch of murals from Pompeii that is never going to make it to the public displays in the museum.

The problem today is that it is so easily accessible.
And to the very young.
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This is part of our problem today. We always think our troubles are worse today than yesterday. Sexual perversion has always infected this Planet.

A brief study about past civilizations proves this, beyond a doubt. The Romans were known for their radical orgies and twisted sexual appetites that would make our skin crawl.

Paul had to tackle this problem, as the Church of Corinth was full of incest. Imagine the days where Polygamy was the norm. Look at David, Samson, and everyone else in the Old Testament who fell into the clutches of immorality.

Yes, Internet Porn is a huge problem, but this is just another way to send people into the gutter sexually, but never forget, the gutter has ALWAYS been there.

This subject is a matter of conscience. I studied this problem for 10 years and wrote a book about it. Sexual addiction is just that, an addiction. We can fall headlong into this if we don't LISTEN to our conscience. Pornography is dark and evil. This is not rocket science. It's fake, and empty, and the conscience God gave us will send off the alarm if we'll listen.

Anyone who reads this and has had an experience with Pornography knows what I'm talking about. Looking at Porn leaves you feeling dirty, empty, and unfulfilled. Just like drugs. The initial "Rush" may seem pleasant but the end result is a complete let down.

The more we face this problem with the simplicity and reality of what it is, the more we can conquer this World which is nothing more than a fantasy that has always put people in the prison of shame.
Awesome post.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:36 AM
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I had a question. What is sexual addiction and how do we distinguish it from what is a normal and healthy sexual interest?
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i personally believe if each partner in a loving, god blessed relationship would concentrate on the other, then how much better would there relationship be and how guarded they would be against sin and hurt, that is what i practice, dt
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I had a question. What is sexual addiction and how do we distinguish it from what is a normal and healthy sexual interest?
Good question, Chris. If you just think of drug addiction, you will pretty much understand the difference.

Studies show, when people are sexually enticed, identical responses in the brain take place as when someone uses cocaine or other narcotics. Natural dopamine is released, giving people temporary relief from pain, stress, leaving one feeling euphoric and distant from their troubles.

Other technologies do the same thing. For instance, Video games. One study done on children in the hospital is very interesting. They found, doctors were able to reduce the medications given to children to alter their pain if they allowed them to play Video games. The reason; dopamine gave the child a sense of relief and reward.

Having a normal relationship with the opposite sex requires many interactions that are not necessary with Pornography. Emotions, moods, smell, and enduring other negatives are required in the act of love between two people who are intimate. This will generally keep a barrier between addictive and natural tendencies.

Pornography is a completely different experience. The "Act" eliminates all interaction, leading the person to a selfish and dark yearning. In fact, a person who engages in Porn eventually is repulsed by actual sex, all because (He/She) is gratified by a picture rather than a person, becoming bound by the “Quick Fix”.

Sexually addicted people are drawn by what's in it for them, becoming oblivious to the need their mate, lust driving them, not love. If the addiction goes too far, caution is thrown to the wind, responsibilities are forsaken, and they become strangled by shame.

Shame is actually the greatest hurdle for the sexually addicted to overcome, but once someone can admit (confession) they have a problem the cure is on its way.

Hope this helps.
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I had a question. What is sexual addiction and how do we distinguish it from what is a normal and healthy sexual interest?
The question applies to everything... As I have stated in other areas. The things we sin in are a natural aspect that is embellished. Beinging angry in itself is not a sin. Nor is hate. It's the out of bounds things we do that cause it to be sin. Just as food is normal the excess of it is sin because it use was not according to God's order of it's use etc...

This is why the total depravity and sin nature arguments fail in the end. They ignore the natural aspects of what we are and see us as absolutes in every area and in sin automatically.
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The question applies to everything... As I have stated in other areas. The things we sin in are a natural aspect that is embellished. Beinging angry in itself is not a sin. Nor is hate. It's the out of bounds things we do that cause it to be sin. Just as food is normal the excess of it is sin because it use was not according to God's order of it's use etc...

This is why the total depravity and sin nature arguments fail in the end. They ignore the natural aspects of what we are and see us as absolutes in every area and in sin automatically.
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