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04-29-2010, 07:45 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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Imagine the money we can save if gave every Doctor a shotgun and a pair of dice
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ROFL!
Dude, that's not what I'm saying at all!!!
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04-29-2010, 07:46 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I was just voicing the thoughts that were on my mind.
The scenario is real.
The losses are huge-- for everyone involved.
Was it even worth it?
He's dead! Now what are we going to do? What do we have to show for our investment?
I don't know what the right solution is.
Obviously, euthanizing someone before their time is criminal.
But how about allowing someone to die?
Whether it happened in March or April, the results were the same.
Maybe we should raise taxes just so the hospitals can continue to do EVERYTHING they can to save EVERY life and pay EVERY doctor, specialist and tech involved in saving EVERY life.
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Awe, there it is! The bolded part tells the tale!
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04-29-2010, 07:48 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
You know JD I can see you ranting just a hard if the story was in reverse.
"Can you believe they let him die and didn't even try?"
You want to put the doctors in a no win situation?
It is their responsiblity to do all they can to keep someone alive. If they start looking at the dollar then our healthcare will go down the tubes. Which is exactly what will happen if BO has his way.
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04-29-2010, 07:49 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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If the man went to the Hospital he went to get help man. Should the doctors check him out and say "Hmmmm, you have a 75% chance of making it, but that 25% bothers me....go take a hike and die on the rail road tracks"?
Maybe the man should have went to the VA hospital? Don't we already use taxes for that?
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There isn't a VA Hospital in Orlando.
There will be one in 2012, but things like this have happened over and over again.
It is difficult for everyone to come up with the money to cover events like this, and it happens often enough.
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04-29-2010, 07:51 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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You know JD I can see you ranting just a hard if the story was in reverse.
"Can you believe they let him die and didn't even try?"
You want to put the doctors in a no win situation?
It is their responsiblity to do all they can to keep someone alive. If they start looking at the dollar then our healthcare will go down the tubes. Which is exactly what will happen if BO has his way.
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Esther, you are absolutely right!
Plus I'm a veteran too!!!
All I'm trying to do is discuss a painful reality as I and others are having to deal with this case without emotions.
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04-29-2010, 07:51 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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You know JD I can see you ranting just a hard if the story was in reverse.
"Can you believe they let him die and didn't even try?"
You want to put the doctors in a no win situation?
It is their responsiblity to do all they can to keep someone alive. If they start looking at the dollar then our healthcare will go down the tubes. Which is exactly what will happen if BO has his way.
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Esther, who's responsibility is it to pay them?
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04-29-2010, 07:53 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I was just voicing the thoughts that were on my mind.
The scenario is real.
The losses are huge-- for everyone involved.
Was it even worth it?
He's dead! Now what are we going to do? What do we have to show for our investment?
I don't know what the right solution is.
Obviously, euthanizing someone before their time is criminal.
But how about allowing someone to die?
Whether it happened in March or April, the results were the same.
Maybe we should raise taxes just so the hospitals can continue to do EVERYTHING they can to save EVERY life and pay EVERY doctor, specialist and tech involved in saving EVERY life.
I guess they deserve something for their efforts....
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DJ will you be happy when the government takes all your money via taxes?
If the government had any sense at all they would know how to do things without raising taxes for every thing that comes along.
Some things you just say no to.
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04-29-2010, 07:53 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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Esther, you are absolutely right!
Plus I'm a veteran too!!!
All I'm trying to do is discuss a painful reality as I and others are having to deal with this case without emotions.
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I understand that. AND I agree the medical bills are outrageous!
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04-29-2010, 07:54 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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Esther, who's responsibility is it to pay them?
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The estate.
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04-29-2010, 08:17 PM
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Re: When Is Enough, Enough?
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"The word is near you, on your lips and in your heart"(that is, the word of faith which we preach); because, if you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For man believes with his heart and so is justified, and he confesses with his lips and so is saved."
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Well with the above statement along with your raising taxes statement I believe my initial ideas are correct.
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