obama humiliates israel

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Sam

The "peace deal" consists of two parties.
One is Israel who has repeatedly made concessions in an attempt for peace.
The other is a group who has refused good faith offers and who believe that Israel has no right to exist and should be destroyed.

The main point is this.


The international tit-for-tat that appears to be unfolding was unprovoked by the US.

I'm with America in this Israel-America dispute.

[deacon blues]

Seriously Jermyn, love ya bro, but your two posts here are over the pail.

First, while Israel builds houses, the Palestinians builds bombs. Just because the Palestinians "claim" East Jerusalem as their capital, doesn't mean that Israel has to refrain from building residences there. Jerusalem was the capital of Israel long before Arabs even lived there. Jews have neen building houses in Jerusalem for thousands of years.

Second, BO bows to Arab leaders from the Middle East, but he can't be seen shaking hands with our best ally there? BO hugs Hugo Chavez but can't show solidarity with Netanyahu? Give me a break!

Finally, while Biden was in Israel, the Palestinians publicly celebrated and honored a woman from the 1970s who led a terrorist act in Israel that killed 13 people some of them children. Now which act of the two, building houses in Jerusalem or honoring a slain terrorist, is more provocative and telling about intentions to make peace? Yet, VP Biden didn't get offended at the Palestinians.

This Admin lives in an alternative universe. They call good evil and evil good.

Sorry J, but you're out on a limb with this one. You're on "America's side"? You're on BO's side. Unfortunately he's officially America, but he's neither representing a vast majority of Americans nor is he representing American history and policy ever since Israel became a nation. America vs Israel? Only in an extreme liberals dream.

Well they got it now.

[Truthseeker]

Some would defend Obama if he slapped a baby.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Some would defend Obama if he slapped a baby.

That crybaby needed an attitude adjustment!

[franklyn4]

Originally Posted by oletime

His latest low was to walk out on the israeli president at dinner.The israelis were so scared that they went to their embassy because they didnt trust the phones in this white house.We will pay a heavy price for this.Ther has never been an american president who has done this to israel,bo is staying true to his muslim roots ,i still contend he hates them like any good muslim.Why isnt rahmbo speaking up on this?

Your analysis is way off. Its clear that you dont know what your talking about.

The policy that BO is trying to implement is the same policy that the United States has been trying to implement for the last 30 years. This may come as a shock to you, but Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr and George W also tried to implement the same two state policy between Israel and Palestine.

This new stand still between Israel and the US was provoked by Israel. The Israeli governing partylead by Bibi, is a coalition party that consist of some far right parties. Bibi had to join up with them in order to form the government and fend of his main rival, Livni Tzipi, who is a moderate.

When VP Biden went to Israel 2 weeks ago, he went to restart the peace talks. Ironically, without any warning, the hard liners in Bibi's government went ahead and approved the building of settlements. That action, as you can imagine, put a wrench in the peace talks before they even began.
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...mideast10.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin)

Form all accounts, Bibi, didnt even know about it and found out when VP Biden did when it was announced. Thats why Biden, SS Hillary Clinton denounced what Israel did. The announcement was aimed at derailing the peace talks, and for now it has worked.

But the announcement has weakened Bibi at home because the question being raised now is how much control does Bibi have in his own party?

As for the meeting held at the WH this week, your wrong. BO didnt walk out on Bibi at the dinner. Do you even watch the news or read about what is really going on or do you just make stuff up to fit your already preconceived political beliefs?
(http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...iref=allsearch)

I know some of you on here would love to blame Obama for all that is wrong with the world, but in this instance, he didnt error.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Jerusalem.html
links:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...iref=allsearch
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...iref=allsearch

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I think it's a case of ignorance and lack of decorum over an indicator that BHO is Muslim.

BHO is not a Muslim. This was IMO a rude and calculated move

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by n david

Don't agree about the ignorance - I believe he knew exactly what he was doing. It was his way of sending them a message. It did lack decorum and class. Was not in any way becoming of a President. But I agree that it doesn't mean he's a muslim. I don't believe BHO is one. An arrogant, classless, rude, slimeball and a jerk - yes - but not a muslim.

I don't even see what being a Muslim has to do with it, the right thing to do is to have already arranged dinner for the Israeli guests WITH Obama. Is he too good to eat with Jews?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Seriously Jermyn, love ya bro, but your two posts here are over the pail.

First, while Israel builds houses, the Palestinians builds bombs. Just because the Palestinians "claim" East Jerusalem as their capital, doesn't mean that Israel has to refrain from building residences there. Jerusalem was the capital of Israel long before Arabs even lived there. Jews have neen building houses in Jerusalem for thousands of years.

Second, BO bows to Arab leaders from the Middle East, but he can't be seen shaking hands with our best ally there? BO hugs Hugo Chavez but can't show solidarity with Netanyahu? Give me a break!

Finally, while Biden was in Israel, the Palestinians publicly celebrated and honored a woman from the 1970s who led a terrorist act in Israel that killed 13 people some of them children. Now which act of the two, building houses in Jerusalem or honoring a slain terrorist, is more provocative and telling about intentions to make peace? Yet, VP Biden didn't get offended at the Palestinians.

This Admin lives in an alternative universe. They call good evil and evil good.

Sorry J, but you're out on a limb with this one. You're on "America's side"? You're on BO's side. Unfortunately he's officially America, but he's neither representing a vast majority of Americans nor is he representing American history and policy ever since Israel became a nation. America vs Israel? Only in an extreme liberals dream.

Well they got it now.

And Joe "Mr Cuss a lot" Biden was all smiles when he was visiting the Palestinians....maybe this was a calculated move to appear more sympathetic towards the terrorists.

That's BO's MO...globe trotting around the world and kissing butt and saying how terrible we Americans have been

[Praxeas]

Israel has always maintained that Jerusalem will NEVER be on the table in any peace talks

[Esther]

Originally Posted by n david

Don't agree about the ignorance - I believe he knew exactly what he was doing. It was his way of sending them a message. It did lack decorum and class. Was not in any way becoming of a President. But I agree that it doesn't mean he's a muslim. I don't believe BHO is one. An arrogant, classless, rude, slimeball and a jerk - yes - but not a muslim.

I agree with you post here, except I believe he is a muslim. He may not be practicing or an orthodox Muslim. But at heart he shows all the signs of being a supporter of the muslims.