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02-27-2010, 11:19 AM
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
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A Tsunami advisory has been issued for the B.C. Coast.
Another sign of the times.
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Of the 20 deadliest earthquakes in history, ten of them occurred before 1700. Were those also a "sign of the times?"
And of the ten that have occurred after 1700, most of the have been deadly because of the massive increase in population. If not for the increase in population, most all of the deadliest earthquakes would have occurred long ago in history.
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02-27-2010, 11:27 AM
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
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Of the 20 deadliest earthquakes in history, ten of them occurred before 1700. Were those also a "sign of the times?"
And of the ten that have occurred after 1700, most of the have been deadly because of the massive increase in population. If not for the increase in population, most all of the deadliest earthquakes would have occurred long ago in history.
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Well considering the Apostles considered the day they were living in as last days, I think we need to consider that God who inhabits eternity has a different concept of time than you & I do.
We are nearer to the coming of the Lord than we ever have been!
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02-27-2010, 11:47 AM
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
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Well considering the Apostles considered the day they were living in as last days, I think we need to consider that God who inhabits eternity has a different concept of time than you & I do.
We are nearer to the coming of the Lord than we ever have been!
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Well duh, of course we're closer. I'm also older than I've ever been. But speaking of the apostles, do you think they were correct? And yes, God has a different concept of time than you and I but the apostles concept was just like ours. If there's a difference, it would be that the life expectance was shorter, so they probably considered the last days to be even shorter.
So were they wrong or right? And if they were correct, would it be safe to say the "Coming" could be in 4128? And if so, would you still consider these to be the "last days" according to your concept of time? If it's going to be 4128, it might seem to some like there's no rush.
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02-27-2010, 11:57 AM
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
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Well duh, of course we're closer. I'm also older than I've ever been. But speaking of the apostles, do you think they were correct? And yes, God has a different concept of time than you and I but the apostles concept was just like ours. If there's a difference, it would be that the life expectance was shorter, so they probably considered the last days to be even shorter.
So were they wrong or right? And if they were correct, would it be safe to say the "Coming" could be in 4128? And if so, would you still consider these to be the "last days" according to your concept of time? If it's going to be 4128, it might seem to some like there's no rush.
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Do I think the Apostles were correct? Absolutely, are we closer to the coming of the Lord? Yes, will it be in my lifetime? Maybe, maybe not.
God hasn't told me the exact date he is coming, perhaps he shared that with you?
I am only going by Jesus proclamation that there will be Earthquakes in divers places.
Do you not believe what he said in the Gospels?
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02-27-2010, 12:55 PM
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Re: Earthquake in Chile
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Isn't sequiordejesus (sp?) there also?
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No ... he's in Guatemala ...
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Wow, nice to know I'm being thought of
Nahkoe, I was in Chile for six months back in 2004 (we've been on these forums forever!) but now live in Guatemala.
Good to hear Bishop Fuentes et al are ok. Still working on contacting some of my non-church friends in Santiago.
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02-27-2010, 01:04 PM
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
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Do I think the Apostles were correct? Absolutely, are we closer to the coming of the Lord? Yes, will it be in my lifetime? Maybe, maybe not.
God hasn't told me the exact date he is coming, perhaps he shared that with you?
I am only going by Jesus proclamation that there will be Earthquakes in divers places.
Do you not believe what he said in the Gospels?
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So in what way were the apostles correct? One might surmise that the apostles either didn't understand what "last days" meant, or that they we don't know what last days means. In fact, it would seem one of those statements would certainly have to be true. Do you agree and if so, who didn't understand...you or the apostles?
You asked if God has told me when the "Coming" will be. Do you think it's possible that God may have told me when the "Coming" will be, and if not, why did you ask?
Yes, Matthew, Mark, and Luke recorded that Jesus said there would be earthquakes in "divers places". Was Jesus truly giving a sign? History records "earthquakes in divers places" since the time he said it, and even before. So do you have any theories on what Jesus truly meant? Was he making a rhetorical statement such as, "When rivers have water, we will be in the last days" as a way of saying we could never know?
And last question. Which do you think is a more appropriate response in the even of an earthquake:
1) Hey folks, these are the last days.
2) People are hurting. Let's all pitch in and help.
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02-27-2010, 01:09 PM
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
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So in what way were the apostles correct? One might surmise that the apostles either didn't understand what "last days" meant, or that they we don't know what last days means. In fact, it would seem one of those statements would certainly have to be true. Do you agree and if so, who didn't understand...you or the apostles?
You asked if God has told me when the "Coming" will be. Do you think it's possible that God may have told me when the "Coming" will be, and if not, why did you ask?
Yes, Matthew, Mark, and Luke recorded that Jesus said there would be earthquakes in "divers places". Was Jesus truly giving a sign? History records "earthquakes in divers places" since the time he said it, and even before. So do you have any theories on what Jesus truly meant? Was he making a rhetorical statement such as, "When rivers have water, we will be in the last days" as a way of saying we could never know?
And last question. Which do you think is a more appropriate response in the even of an earthquake:
1) Hey folks, these are the last days.
2) People are hurting. Let's all pitch in and help.
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Both statements are correct, so your question again was?
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02-27-2010, 01:25 PM
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
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Both statements are correct, so your question again was?
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You've forgotten? Here they are for you in numerical order so that it's simplified for you.
1) So in what way were the apostles correct?
2) One might surmise that the apostles either didn't understand what "last days" meant, or that they we don't know what last days means. In fact, it would seem one of those statements would certainly have to be true. Do you agree and if so, who didn't understand...you or the apostles?
3) You asked if God has told me when the "Coming" will be. Do you think it's possible that God may have told me when the "Coming" will be, and if not, why did you ask?
4) Yes, Matthew, Mark, and Luke recorded that Jesus said there would be earthquakes in "divers places". Was Jesus truly giving a sign?
5) History records "earthquakes in divers places" since the time he said it, and even before. So do you have any theories on what Jesus truly meant?
6) Was he making a rhetorical statement such as, "When rivers have water, we will be in the last days" as a way of saying we could never know?
7) No, both statements are NOT correct, otherwise you would have posted both. But you chose to post only one statement, which was, "These are the last days." You said nothing about, "Folks are hurting and we should help."
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02-27-2010, 01:34 PM
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
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You've forgotten? Here they are for you in numerical order so that it's simplified for you.
1) So in what way were the apostles correct?
2) One might surmise that the apostles either didn't understand what "last days" meant, or that they we don't know what last days means. In fact, it would seem one of those statements would certainly have to be true. Do you agree and if so, who didn't understand...you or the apostles?
3) You asked if God has told me when the "Coming" will be. Do you think it's possible that God may have told me when the "Coming" will be, and if not, why did you ask?
4) Yes, Matthew, Mark, and Luke recorded that Jesus said there would be earthquakes in "divers places". Was Jesus truly giving a sign?
5) History records "earthquakes in divers places" since the time he said it, and even before. So do you have any theories on what Jesus truly meant?
6) Was he making a rhetorical statement such as, "When rivers have water, we will be in the last days" as a way of saying we could never know?
7) No, both statements are NOT correct, otherwise you would have posted both. But you chose to post only one statement, which was, "These are the last days." You said nothing about, "Folks are hurting and we should help."
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So because I did not post that exact statement you automatically assumed I did not care?
1. The Apostles are correct period, it is us that get it mixed up (just look around at the world of Christianity for proof of that.)
2. You are surmising the Apostles didn't understand since you brought that up.
3. That was a rhetorical question as you seem to find fault with the statement, "in the last days there will be earthquakes in divers places.
4. Again, are you calling into question Jesus statement in the Gospels?
I take it for what it says.
5. See the answer above for question 4.
6. Was he? I take it at face value, that Jesus meant what he said.
7. See my first statement.
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02-27-2010, 02:24 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: *** 8.8 Earthquake rocks Chile ****
They are expecting an 8 foot wave to hit Hawaii
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