Banned from AMF, AGAIN!

[pelathais]

Sorry Jason. All I can really do about those guys right now is to laugh at them - or maybe with them too. That is not a forum for discussion. Everybody knows that.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Brother David

Sorry Jason. All I can really do about those guys right now is to laugh at them - or maybe with them too. That is not a forum for discussion. Everybody knows that.

Well I read the rules before posting, they said the oneness of the Godhead is not debateable, and basically neither is Acts 2:38. Besides that everything else was left open.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

Bro Badejo I will go on record right now to say that you sir are a liar.

You have not at this time of 12:26 EST have been banned.

After this stunt .... it could happen .

Brother, you PM'd me, I tried to respond, I was locked out of the forum. I pulled the page up, and I was locked out still. You had just mentioned in the thread concerning banning that patience was a virtue, but yours was running out. You then PM'd me saying you were going to ban me if I didn't respond, or something to that effect. (That is when I tried to respond only to find I was locked out).

I thought because I was locked out, I was banned, especially since it had been mentioned twice tonight.

You then call me a liar, send me an email, I sign on to AMF, and have 3 PM's from you. I try to respond AGAIN, and this time get the no doubt about it, permanent ban screen.

Brother, I mistaked being locked out with being banned. It is quite logical how I could make the connection following your comments. So I was mistaken, where as you came on a public forum, being a Pastor and made a false accusation.

Furthermore, you post that I did not support my view with scripture, I ask you to debate me on a forum people can read, and get the permanent ban.

This shows you really got some Bible for what you believe.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

That is what was asked of you by the ownership but from what I saw you never could nor would.

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

As I mentioned, AFF has a debate room, in which only two specific posters can post, it is locked to all others except Praxeas.

You say I don't have scripture for what I believe and preach. Would you be willing to partake in a logical, scriptural, and moderated debate on the topic, and that on a public forum?

Ohio, you didn't answer the question. If your not interested, perhaps another gentleman from AMF is interested.

[pelathais]

Jason, he plays this game all the time. He called you a "liar" on a technicality, the circumstances of which he knew full and well. He essentially ... uhm, "misrepresented the truth" here when he called you a liar.

I have never seen this man follow any practices of integrity in any of his forum postings. He will stalk people from one forum to another, pronounce some sort of harsh judgment against them and trust that no one else will ever find out about his games.

The other admins should carefully review having this particular party involved in any leadership position on their forums. He will plague your efforts will deceitful games and never be square with you. Just look at how he called Jason a "liar" because Jason was actually "locked out" until he responded to Private Messages that he could not even log in to read - and wasn't officially "banned" until he failed to log in.

Is this how you want your forum represented among Jesus name people?

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

You no longer are a liar.

This is a pathetic attempt at righting a wrong.

You obviously seem to have a problem with the words 'I'm Sorry'.

I haven't been this disgusted in a long time.

[TroubleMaker]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Brother, you PM'd me, I tried to respond, I was locked out of the forum. I pulled the page up, and I was locked out still. You had just mentioned in the thread concerning banning that patience was a virtue, but yours was running out. You then PM'd me saying you were going to ban me if I didn't respond, or something to that effect. (That is when I tried to respond only to find I was locked out).

I thought because I was locked out, I was banned, especially since it had been mentioned twice tonight.

You then call me a liar, send me an email, I sign on to AMF, and have 3 PM's from you. I try to respond AGAIN, and this time get the no doubt about it, permanent ban screen.

Brother, I mistaked being locked out with being banned. It is quite logical how I could make the connection following your comments. So I was mistaken, where as you came on a public forum, being a Pastor and made a false accusation.

Furthermore, you post that I did not support my view with scripture, I ask you to debate me on a forum people can read, and get the permanent ban.

This shows you really got some Bible for what you believe.

Jason, just don't go on that forum. This is the "ministers only" forum, correct? That statement alone makes it a site you should never belong to. "Ministers only"?? As if they're better? As if they should be separate from everyone else? There has long been differentiated levels of Christians that start at the bottom with the poor guy that cleans the toilets all the way up to the top, to the guy that has a card in his pocket that makes him feel better than everyone. As soon as there is a forum for church nursery workers, or one for janitors, or faithful financial supporters (without which the AMF dudes would have to go get a job selling cars or insurance), or parking lot attendants, or one for ushers & greeters....then a forum like AMF will be worthwhile. Until then, a minister's forum is just a club of like-minded cronies patting themselves on the back. As a pastor, I wouldn't dare belong to a forum like that.

Take your experience with "Ohio Pastor", who, from what I'm reading here has no ability to be honest or truthful, as a lesson and just move on.

[Digging4Truth]

Some subjects are not discussed in the negative in some places and you will call a quick end to your membership should you persist in such.

And you can forget a one on one debate.

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by The Mrs

This is a pathetic attempt at righting a wrong.

You obviously seem to have a problem with the words 'I'm Sorry'.

I haven't been this disgusted in a long time.

I agree! What a sad state of affairs. But, I guess we should not be surprised. I'm not. This ilk always seems to "fire" first, then aim. NEVER apologizing or admitting even the possibility of fault. What POWER there must be felt in that "authority" to ban with the press of a single key. Here on AFF, it takes a consensus of Admins to perm ban someone or to simply ban someone unless an egregious offense has been committed. Some people just love power!

[tbpew]

As a general life principle, I think ANY energy spent discussing preceived or actual inequities involving owners of any online forum related to non-paying visitor/members of someone else's forum, is nothing more than an attempt to fan the fires of human contention.

But since this thread has only two pages of posts and has a very clear set of actions and reactions that can be understood against a backdrop of limited/controlled access, it has helped me to be reminded of things and even gather some WISDOM.

I would like to PUBLICALLY thank Jason and Pel for their contribution to the discussion pertaining to yet another man-club; a human-owned, human-operated, human-support and advocacy group.

My conclusion (you can stop reading here and save yourself being exposed to such narrowness)




If we play online we MUST accept the inherent priviledge of ownership to do whatever they choose, whenever they choose.

We can endlessly engage discussion about human politic and maybe get 10-30pages in 24 hours. If some perceived victor lifts up the head of the baptist in smug pleasure knowing a strategy exploited the trap of an opponent's ego, YOU ARE FULLY ENGAGED in a carnally-minded virtual feeding frenzy ---having NOTHING to do with the Kingdom of God!

We should find a community where we have enough agreement to walk together and continue in that community until that agreement can no longer be found. There should not be any hard feelings when we walk away do to loss of the necessary sustaining agreement.

I guess the tricky part for spiritually-minded people is what to do when divergent dynamics are "in-play" at any one location.