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Old 10-19-2009, 07:07 PM
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Re: On Rush Being Dropped from Ram's Bid

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If I remember, McNabb choked (pretty much literally as he vomited on the field during the game) in the SB. He's over-rated, as are a few others.

Had Keyshawn Johnson, Chris Carter, Curt Menefee or James Brown said the same thing Limbaugh did about McNabb, nothing would've been said about it.
I'm just saying that his stats most often put him among the better of the starting quarterbacks of the NFL and whenever he did play with elite receivers like some of the others, he had a great deal of success. I am not a McNabb fan, but saying this after the MVP-like year he had just had did not make sense.

I personally don't care whether Rush owns a team. There are likely some current owners with much bigger problems than Rush. I also agree that the perception that many have of Rush already probably affected the way that they perceived his statement. However, at the end of the day,I think the issue was that in a field where many employees can choose who they will work for, having so many come out and say that they would not work for him was a problem.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:59 PM
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I'm just saying that his stats most often put him among the better of the starting quarterbacks of the NFL and whenever he did play with elite receivers like some of the others, he had a great deal of success. I am not a McNabb fan, but saying this after the MVP-like year he had just had did not make sense.

I personally don't care whether Rush owns a team. There are likely some current owners with much bigger problems than Rush. I also agree that the perception that many have of Rush already probably affected the way that they perceived his statement. However, at the end of the day,I think the issue was that in a field where many employees can choose who they will work for, having so many come out and say that they would not work for him was a problem.
Stephen Smith, former ESPN commentator is saying that the players that said they wouldn't play for Rush are lying through their teeth.

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"If he has the money, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, and those black ballplayers that are saying that, I'm here on national television telling you they're lying through their stinking teeth."

"Oh, you're going to pass up money because, oh, my God, I'm offended by Rush Limbaugh being the owner? Who are you fooling? They're liars."
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...gh-are-lying/1
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._the_rams.html
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Old 10-20-2009, 08:49 AM
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Stephen Smith, former ESPN commentator is saying that the players that said they wouldn't play for Rush are lying through their teeth.



You can hear the interview here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._the_rams.html
Stephen A is one of many anylysts who are paid I guess to speculate as to what people are really thinking. However, I don't see how he can be so sure about this. Some of what we heard was anonymous grumbling, but at the point when you have prominent players going on the record and saying they wouldn't work for him I don't know how he can say they are lying. Some of these are guys who at free agency will have dozens of teams fighting over them, and I think that once they have put it out on record they won't be inclined to go against that.

Bottom line, many of the NFL are in the position of millions of Americans...they have to make their money however and wherever they can. However, the most desirable players do pick and choose and have opted not to play for certain teams for a variety of reasons.
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Stephen A is one of many anylysts who are paid I guess to speculate as to what people are really thinking. However, I don't see how he can be so sure about this. Some of what we heard was anonymous grumbling, but at the point when you have prominent players going on the record and saying they wouldn't work for him I don't know how he can say they are lying. Some of these are guys who at free agency will have dozens of teams fighting over them, and I think that once they have put it out on record they won't be inclined to go against that.

Bottom line, many of the NFL are in the position of millions of Americans...they have to make their money however and wherever they can. However, the most desirable players do pick and choose and have opted not to play for certain teams for a variety of reasons.
I will agree with you that some players were saying that they wouldn't play for him and that the choice players get to pick who they play for. I don't know how many sided against Rush and I don't really care if he buys a team or not - he certainly has the money to do it! Someone is listening to ol' Rushbo! LOL!

You are right on the bottom line of it - the NFL is in the same position of millions of Americans - they need the money!
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I thought it was absurd and sad that these over payed players can dictate such issues based on politics.
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I thought it was absurd and sad that these over payed players can dictate such issues based on politics.
I honestly don't think it was his politics that caused the reaction. There are plenty of owners of every conceivable political persuasion. I think it was specifically how Rush is perceived on matters of race...and specifically how he has directly weighed in on the NFL.
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bottom line, no evidence he made the statements, they are lies ginned up by the media, the real racists are the liars, dt
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the real truth was spoken on orielly when juan williams guest hosted and ken hutchinson, pastor of antioch baptist church in washington, spoke out for rush, he is a black man and could be my pastor if i was there, dt
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bottom line, no evidence he made the statements, they are lies ginned up by the media, the real racists are the liars, dt
DT, like I said, I personally couldn't care less what Rush buys. I've also said in the past on AFF that when I was younger, I used to listen to Rush almost religiously. I stopped when I start seeing him more as a partisan hack than news or info. As to his issues of race, there are many statements that he has made that cause people to wonder.

I personally didn't care for him calling Obama's plans forced reparations. I think that there is a clear underlying message and interjection of race. In my opinion, Obama's social goals are in keeping than what other liberals of all races have been trying to do. The liberal leadership in the House and surrounding him in the White House who are pushing for these things are not a bunch of Black people looking for reparations.

I happen to be Black and not looking for reparations at all. However, my wife and I are in Health Insurance hell right now dealing with all the complications of my baby's birth. I know many White people and people of all races who need a bad Healthcare system fixed. The countries that people use to illustrate possible models are not a bunch of countries handing out reparations.

I think when you sum it up, it looks to many people like Rush Limbaugh is speaking to a largely White audience and due to Obama's race is interjecting racial alarm.

As it relates to football in particular, given the way some people already view him, a lot of the professional, law-abiding NFL players took exception to him saying that an NFL game looks like a fight between the Crips and the Bloods. Perhaps if people did not see him in a certain light, this would not have rubbed them the wrong way.

He once again specifically weighed in on an NFL issue when he said that the only reason McNabb was getting the credit he was getting is because he is Black. Once again, in a vacuum maybe this statement would not have raised any eyebrows. However, we are often judged by our words and our reputation (whether it is deserved or not).
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