The UPC is a dying movement!

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Are too!



Just messin' with ya.

ya wanna fight !!!!!!!!!!!LOL LOL

[Timmy]

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by Sandra

No, I'm not... I wish they would just make some changes.. admit a few mistakes . Its the hard line.. hard headed ones that is causing this.
This next generation is NOT going for this nonsense.. its a new day!

Make Changes? Uuuuhhhh.....no. Admit mistakes??? You're kidding, right? I was once a young, enthusiastic, well-intentioned fellow who was going to help change things. I'm still fairly young but I eventually decided I'd rather live my life serving those that are far from God than beating my head against an unmovable wall. It hurts too much and the people that need us Christ Followers the most are never introduced to the only thing that matters....the grace of God.

As long as foam pours out of the mouth of upcer's when the word "trinitarian" is mentioned, things won't change. I hate to tell you but the next generation is already going for this nonsense.

I jumped in on a thread when I asked someone to stop spreading untrue rumors. Since I joined a few days ago, I've been run through the shredder continually. When you consider that the trend toward exclusivity has only increased over the upc's history, and NEVER decreased, then it is what it is.

If you want things to be different...I say, "Hit the trail."

And I'm glad you're upset.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Aren't the natives bitter today.

So much for the "Charisma" part of the Charismatic movement.

Feel the joy off the Lord.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Irreligious

And I'm glad you're upset.

And it shows.

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by Sandra

At because of the times, the general sup. Kenneth haney said" Fathers encourage your sons to preach the gospel, we are getting no applications from men under the age of 45" .



I stand by my statement ITS DYING ! SANDRA

That may be true in the land of stars and stripes, but recent statistics, presented to the UPC of Canada's National Conference, show that, with the present growth trajectory, the UPC of Canada is destined to double.

The UPC may be dying in the hinterlands to the south, but its future is bright in the north lands.

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Sandra

No, I'm not... I wish they would just make some changes.. admit a few mistakes . Its the hard line.. hard headed ones that is causing this.
This next generation is NOT going for this nonsense.. its a new day!

The "hard-liners" will say they knew UPCI was dying, but it wasn't because of them. They'll blame those who are "trying to imitate the AOG."

I wonder what the future of the UPCI looks like.

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Irreligious

Make Changes? Uuuuhhhh.....no. Admit mistakes??? You're kidding, right? I was once a young, enthusiastic, well-intentioned fellow who was going to help change things. I'm still fairly young but I eventually decided I'd rather live my life serving those that are far from God than beating my head against an unmovable wall. It hurts too much and the people that need us Christ Followers the most are never introduced to the only thing that matters....the grace of God.

As long as foam pours out of the mouth of upcer's when the word "trinitarian" is mentioned, things won't change. I hate to tell you but the next generation is already going for this nonsense.

I jumped in on a thread when I asked someone to stop spreading untrue rumors. Since I joined a few days ago, I've been run through the shredder continually. When you consider that the trend toward exclusivity has only increased over the upc's history, and NEVER decreased, then it is what it is.

If you want things to be different...I say, "Hit the trail."

And I'm glad you're upset.

We really have spent more time/energy fighting for political position in a large organization. The politics of "the church" has gotten more mic time at most churches than just reaching people, and remembering what the main thing is.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Sandra

No, I'm not... I wish they would just make some changes.. admit a few mistakes . Its the hard line.. hard headed ones that is causing this.
This next generation is NOT going for this nonsense.. its a new day!

your right sandra..... they need to go back and admit to some mistakes, make some changes and go back to the old paths

[RandyWayne]

"It's dead Jim"