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Old 03-20-2009, 02:46 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

Uh #1 ~ The poster did not say it was a man...it said 'spouse'.
#2 ~ Do women have a problem with porno?
What I'm trying to say is...what is the percent of women addicted to porn?
Anyone??
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:57 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

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Uh #1 ~ The poster did not say it was a man...it said 'spouse'.
#2 ~ Do women have a problem with porno?
What I'm trying to say is...what is the percent of women addicted to porn?
Anyone??
The poster is Andrea.....I assume that's a woman.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:26 PM
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Hey you must be kidding. Porn is fornication. It is sin not something casual. To even THINK upon a woman with DESIRE/LUST is a sin.
Was the young woman in the Song of Solomon who was fantasising about the man she wanted to marry "lusting"? Desire isn't lust. Interest isn't lust.

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Im sure the man or women who the spouse is married to are very hurt and offended.
One thing I've learned...we choose to be hurt or offended. When a spouse realizes that the issue isn't with them, it's an internal struggle of the individual struggling with the problem they have no reason to be "offended" or "hurt". That's when it's time to be human, frank, forgiving, and seek outside help.

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Im also sure the Lords anger can wax hot about it. He said better to pluck your eye out and enter Heaven with one than having 2 to be cast into Gehenna fire.
The Lord's anger does wax hot against men who lust after women other than their wives. However, God isn't ready to destroy every man who is smitting with a woman's beauty. Nor is he ready to destroy every young boy who discovers "girls". Nor is God ready to destroy a person who's retreating into a fantasy world to escape the pain or insecurities of the real world that they are struggling to deal with.

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If one thinks they are a Christian and they are right with God while doing it they have deceived themselves.
Same can be said for any form of sin. The point is friend, many Christians do struggle with this. I believe Rev. Ensey had an article on it where 3 out of 5 Apostolic MINISTERS reported having had struggles in this area. This is a very human issue that has to be dealt with with wisdom, compassion, and frankness.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:29 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

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Uh #1 ~ The poster did not say it was a man...it said 'spouse'.
#2 ~ Do women have a problem with porno?
What I'm trying to say is...what is the percent of women addicted to porn?
Anyone??
I think we'd be surprised to know how many women struggle with pornography. I've noticed an increasing number of "couples" who struggle with it together. They experiment with once or twice it to "spice things up" and find that it begins to be a regular part of their love play. Most often in my experience the women find themselves more interested in "stories", scenarios, and the softer stuff. But it all can be just as damaging.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:30 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

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Hey you must be kidding. Porn is fornication. It is sin not something casual. To even THINK upon a woman with DESIRE/LUST is a sin.

Im sure the man or women who the spouse is married to are very hurt and offended.

Im also sure the Lords anger can wax hot about it. He said better to pluck your eye out and enter Heaven with one than having 2 to be cast into Gehenna fire.

If one thinks they are a Christian and they are right with God while doing it they have deceived themselves.
Michael, I understand your points, and all though I believe that porn is wrong and unhealthy, I don't think it is fornication per se. To me porn is no more fornication than envy is theft.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:32 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

Michael the Disciple...are you married?
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:37 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

Let's look at what Jesus actually said....
Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Jesus is talking about a man actually looking at a woman in his presence. Notice also that the intent of the man's gaze is "to lust after her". He's looking with the intent and goal of actually seducing her. A man who does such a thing has already committed adultery in his heart the moment he determines to look upon her for the specific purpose taking her.

Jesus isn't saying that a 12 year old boy's peaking at an underwear add or fantasizing about what it will be like to be with a girl is lust. Nor is Jesus addressing some of the more complex issues of human behavior where vice is chosen to numb emotional pain. Nor is Jesus addressing the normal sexual interest between the sexes. Jesus is addressing womanizing "players".

Also note, Jesus didn't say, "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery." No, Jesus said he's already committed adultery with her, "in his heart". Jesus isn't saying that it's exactly the same as actual adultery. Jesus is saying that adultery begins in the heart long before the act itself is committed.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:43 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

Get rid of the computer.

Seriously.

Replace it with prayer, Bible reading and smokin' hot smooches.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:47 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

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Get rid of the computer.

Seriously.

Replace it with prayer, Bible reading and smokin' hot smooches.
A succinct paraphrase of Pro 5:15-19

(you're talking about smooching your wife, right?)
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:52 PM
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Re: You found your spouse looking at porn..again..

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Get rid of the computer.

Seriously.

Replace it with prayer, Bible reading and smokin' hot smooches.
Amen! I love it. lol
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