Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theology!

[Scott Hutchinson]

One step believes that if you place faith in Jesus Christ and believe you are borned again at the point of repentance.
Three step says you ain't borned of water and spirit until you repent,get baptized in Jesus Name and receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the physical sign of speaking in tongues,as the spirit gives the utterance.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by revrandy

One Step - Leaves folks in the Grave - Repentance only

Three Step- Offers folks a Resurrection - Believes that a person must be filled with the Holy Ghost to overcome the world...

I followed three steps and was still in the grave. I am just glad I wasn't in charge of my salvation. Glad to know God has the ability to complete the work that he started.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Light

Sam you left out the most important part. One steppers believe a person can go to heaven without being baptised in Jesus name or recieving the HG.

I thought I said that.

[Cindy]

I don't have a clue how to define the self defined steps.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by revrandy

One Step - Leaves folks in the Grave - Repentance only

Three Step- Offers folks a Resurrection - Believes that a person must be filled with the Holy Ghost to overcome the world...

well, I can't speak for all one-steppers, but it is my opinion that when a person comes to Jesus in faith and repentance, that person is placed "in Christ" and has therefore died, been buried, has risen with Christ and is seated with Him in the Heavenlies (ref Ephesians 2 and Romans 6).

In my opinion, water baptism is a public burial of the person you used to be and a public display that not only is the old person dead and buried you have also risen to walk in newness of life. If water baptism is just a burial, wouldn't the person remain under the water?

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

One step believes that if you place faith in Jesus Christ and believe you are borned again at the point of repentance.
Three step says you ain't borned of water and spirit until you repent,get baptized in Jesus Name and receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the physical sign of speaking in tongues,as the spirit gives the utterance.

Not necessarily! Repentance to many is seperate from initial faith that saves. Many will even argue one does not have to repent to be saved.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Sam

well, I can't speak for all one-steppers, but it is my opinion that when a person comes to Jesus in faith and repentance, that person is placed "in Christ" and has therefore died, been buried, has risen with Christ and is seated with Him in the Heavenlies (ref Ephesians 2 and Romans 6).

In my opinion, water baptism is a public burial of the person you used to be and a public display that not only is the old person dead and buried you have also risen to walk in newness of life. If water baptism is just a burial, wouldn't the person remain under the water?

trying to stay aaaaa waaaaay.....

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Not necessarily! Repentance to many is seperate from initial faith that saves. Many will even argue one does not have to repent to be saved.

hmmm, . . . repentance is a turning away from our sinful nature and turning towards God. This isn't a work but a change in our hearts. I believe repentance is separate from faith but also that true faith in God will result in repentance. We can't repent until after we have faith.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

yep got to have those tongues even though there were people in the bible that had the holyghost long before tongues came on the scene

That's been addressed here many times before.

What people had previously was not the same Holy Ghost experience as what the NT church later received.

John himself said the Holy Ghost would not be given until after Jesus was glorified.

John 7:39: The Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.

[KWSS1976]

Ok so the bible lies when it states Elizabeth was filled with the Holyghost?