Does God have another plan for the Jews?

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Sam

I'm not sure what you mean.

It is my understanding that God has one plan of salvation per dispensation.
Since this is the dispensation of Grace or The Church Age, God has one plan of salvation for both Jew and Gentile. To me, that is what Romans 1:16 says.

From what I understand, John Hagee teaches that Jesus did not present Himself as Messiah to the first century Jews, therefore they did not reject Him, and they are still under the Old Covenant and are not required to accept the Gospel as preached under the New Covenant/Testament. I'm not sure how many others believe that way.

That would be crazy if he really believes that.

Sam, if you have a link for this could you post it for us?
Thx

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Justin

I've heard for a while (since attending a Pentecostal church) that God has a "back-up" plan for the Jewish people.

Does this theory hold water?

If you're referring to the eventual salvation of the Jews.... then there are several scripture passages used to support the belief that they will indeed all turn to God one day.

Romans 11 is a key scripture in that regard, in particular, verses 27-32:

25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

[Scott Hutchinson]

This is interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxXDAAD_wNw

[Scott Hutchinson]

This might be of interest.
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ...section-5.html

[Scott Hutchinson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0CyolAOeWQ

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0CyolAOeWQ

Insane and irresponsible comments.
Ridiculous.

I like the response by this guy:
Re: John Hagee's In Defense of Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHL0R...eature=related

[Sam]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

That would be crazy if he really believes that.

Sam, if you have a link for this could you post it for us?
Thx

I don't have a link. This came up once before on here or on another forum. I think Mike Blume provided a link to YouTube where John Hagee was promoting a new book. I think there was quite a reaction and he may have modified his teaching a little.

I don't know if anyone else on here remembers that or not.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Sam

I don't have a link. This came up once before on here or on another forum. I think Mike Blume provided a link to YouTube where John Hagee was promoting a new book. I think there was quite a reaction and he may have modified his teaching a little.

I don't know if anyone else on here remembers that or not.

Well, I see that by the time I gave this answer, others had provided the information.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

That would be crazy if he really believes that.

Sam, if you have a link for this could you post it for us?
Thx

That guy Hagee is spiritual lunatic.

To answer the question, there is only one plan of salvation. It was first preached to the Jews, later the Samaritans and finally the Gentiles by the man with the keys. The ONE door is open to all men.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig